Why do so many people hate mags...

[Target Practice]

I have a good solution next time someone says that just break their nose, then, shoot them in the nuts with the "sucky mag" lol

Wow, you're a jerk. Thanks for that wonderful post.

[Enemy]

and that was the point of resurrecting an old thread!!!!im over joyed

[Carbon]

Why do so many people hate mags...

the same reason why people hate:

Cockers
Angels
Impulses
Matrixes
Intimidators
Dm4's
Spyders
Tippmans
ect ect ect.

[Stealthgerbil]

people alot in paintball think averything in paintball is about looks

honestly what looks better an 03 wgp cocker or a stock automag?

that is what people go on let people know there are something called upgrades to make it look better if that is all they care about.

DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER!!!!!

Honestly, I dont jduge a marker until it has all of the upgrades on it. Last time I was at the field I go to (PAP in MD), I saw two guys with e-mags, one was a blue karta, the other was a red ULE, and those mags looked just as nice as the most pimped out timmy.

[Death From Above]

mags rock.... these people have never owned one or even shot one so what the hell do they know... next time someone says something ask them why they suck i'll bet they say something lame like they just do.... mags are flawless and if they are flawed AGD. fixes the problem.. try that with a cocker.. besides I played with a guy that had a cocker and used his mag as a backup but the cocker was always down.. he always played the mag.

[XSSPL]

I started playing back in '91 and I can personally attest that the mag was so far ahead of everything else out there that the aftermarket necessities (hoppers, and gas supply options to be exact) could not keep up or just weren't available.

A mag chopped paint mainly because the next ball didn't drop fast enough to be properly chambered. Why do you think the barrel was made with the quick lock??? - on the field quick squeegie. All markers back then chopped for whatever reason - everyone had a squeegie, hardly ever see them today.

I played with a loaded out VM68 magnum - that damn thing was freakin heavy and a GAS HOG... and I mean like 300-400 shots out of a 14 oz bottle. The mags were designed from the beginning with a valve set up dependant on reliable and relatively constant gas pressure and density, which as we all know is really freakin difficult with CO2. So any early day Mag owner will tell you that remote lines and expansions were not a luxury, but an absolute necessity. Once you had the gun set up right - they were unmatched on the fields.

I faught a god dang original design AutoCocker for 18 months until I just got so fed up with the constant tinkering and never ending upgrades that I finally gave up and went the complete opposite direction and got a Tippman Pro/AM (yes before the ProLite) added an 18" Smart Parts, ran remote just to lighten an already heavy *** marker and played woods ball tourneys for about 5 yrs and did very well both as a player and as a team member.

But... the whole time I was going up against these freakin fast as hell (then anyway) Mags - I mean, everyone had them. I really had to focus and play smart in order to have success. To tell the truth, when everyone began winning through sheer volume of paint thrown, I became increasingly "over the whole thing" and got out of paintball other than a few occasions from '99 to 2004.

I was rently drawn back into the sport, played two weekends with the Tipp and decided to get myself the Mag I'd always wanted. I did just that - Classic, 16" smartparts, remote, dual expansions - the gun I'd seen in a few hundred different hands back in the day...

Only problem is that I didn't do enough research before I purchased and wished I had, but oh well... I knew the game had changed with the eguns etc, but damn, now I need a $225 valve/bolt upgrade, a frame upgrade and a $150 HPA rig just to be "up to date".

But here's the whole point to the story - even with my old Classic CO2 mag - I still manage to teach these new players a lesson or two on a consistant week to week basis. Not bragging, but even the "team players" at the local field were impressed with an old man's (29) success with a good old fashioned Mag. You can have the fastest gun made, but if your movement and tactics aren't there - you will go down more often than not.

Bottom line - players win games, not the markers they hold.

[B.A.M.]

As a wise man once said.
Its the player that makes the gun not the gun that makes the player which most people belive so they decide to get angles as there first guns. Actually at my field people who have impys angles and ect. all love Mags. they always want to shoot mine and what not

[yakitori]

Mags are great. Just like any apsect of life, there are always gonna be ppl who dont share a personal preference toward something, so they bash it and try to make it look bad to as many ppl as they can tell, cause that somehow satisfies them. Honestly ppl are easy to convince, and if they havent tried it personally and heard bad things about it, that makes them not want to try it out.

I have an emag that is plenty fast, and can compete w/ timmys, anything WASd, imps, shockers, nerves, angels, etc.

Emag is fast, reliable, low profile, doesnt chop w/ lvl X, has three modes. accurate, consistent, and all around great.

Ive not had any leaks yet, but the mag is such a simple gun to work on, that rebuilding them takes no time to do. In fact, Since I got an EmaX valve for my emag, I used my old emag valve and body to build a back up mag. Got an ULT, classic rail, emag body, a barrel, and everthing else for it, and BAM.......what a great gun.

They are such low maintenance too. Few drops of oil every time you play, and thats it.

ANd btw, how hard can it be to tune a lvl X, Its just an Oring and a carrier and shims, and some fine tuning. Not that hard to do. PPL act like it is rocket science.

I can fine tune my LVl X in less than 15-20 minutes.

I am going to be an AGD user for the remainder of my paintball "career". I love not having to worry about my guns.

[AGDlover]

Most people are just ignorant and wont accecpt the fact that mag were the base gun of all other guns when AGD came out with a semi automatic gun it revolutionised the paintball world forever and still does. sure we may not have the newest stuff to date but AGD made a huge land-mark in paintball history.

[FSU_Paintball]

It doesn't matter where you came from or what you've done in the past if you're not putting out a current product that most people would choose to own. Most ballers these days have been playing for less than 2 years, and started with an electro.

To sum up the answer to the question posed by this thread:

People hate mags because they assume they're still like they used to be, and because of their current shortcomings.

Compared to current guns, they USED to be slow, heavy, and chop lots of paint. Which isn't true these days, but that's still the rep.

Compared to current guns, mags are (with some definite exceptions) slow, inefficient, kick too much, and run high pressure (which some people don't like, even though they don't really know what they're talking about).


Of course, mags are also very reliable, don't chop, can be lightweight and low-profile, and are fast if set up properly. So most of the reasons people don't buy them can be thrown out the window as misconceptions.

[tony3]

You guys can stop wasting your lives posting, this is from june...

[hwayhzrd]

I say screw 'em.

Shoot whatever you prefer.

I hate marker snobs with a passion, and I see this along with the divide between Speedballers and Woodsballers to be one of the worst problems in the sport currently.

I shoot what I bloody well want to shoot. If they can't handle it, then DOOM ON THEM.

Try taking a Tippmann to a field. People really give you crap then.

[MonsterMag]

they markers suck and they are jelious

[SSMercury]

You guys can stop wasting your lives posting, this is from june...

Nevah!

Although all I wanted to say has been said in the last 10 posts or so.

[TheTramp]

I have a good solution next time someone says that just break their nose, then, shoot them in the nuts with the "sucky mag" lol

You dug up this thread just to post this?