New Atomix Intimidator! (real Pics)

[elpimpo]

All black with a slit through the middle? :

he he he

[hAppy]

leaving this thread for a bit and seeing a giant argument arise, im glad to see that it had come to a peaceful conclusion, rather than a thread end up being locked. good job guys, this was handled in well mannered way, very unpbn-like

anyway, i can tell timmys will probably never look any better than the 2k4 or 2k2 timmys. except the unreleased 2k4 rippers

[Muzikman]

Simon, no Ninja timmy until ya get the one that was designed on the table cloth at TexBall done!:)

[Bolter]

Manike......

....I demand a ginja ninja timmy........

[1stdeadeye]

It would be like putting a LS V8 in a cavalier and calling it a 'Vette.

Well this you could. Just call it a Chevette!

[Load SM5]

Simon, no Ninja timmy until ya get the one that was designed on the table cloth at TexBall done!:)

Ah yes, my attempt at timmy design. That needs to be made.

Anyway I love my new spyder......

[1stdeadeye]

Very nice Load. I bought the shocker back up because I did not have the patience to wait for the timmy!

BTW. Banners were perfect. THanks again!!!!

[DK1]

Pre-apologies to Jim and Simon, I think when you read this you'll realize that what I'm about to say isn't in any way directed at you guys.

I think it's great that we have people that work in the industry that come on here. However, as of late, one thing has really, really irked me. It's like we are all supposed to have some special reverence for these people, like now that they work for some paintball company they no longer can be confronted by the opinions of the "little people" that post online. I keep seeing people post from companies, and anytime anyone disagrees with them at all, someone else comes out and tells them to shut up (basically) because they don't know anything. Well... ok, maybe they don't know anything. But, I think sometimes though we need to step back and really evaluate why we are so adamant about defending people that work for companies here.

You always see it on PBN when people back up something some pro-player says or does. C'mon, just because a guy can play, doesn't mean that his opinions are worth a dime. I don't care if he's got sandanas to wipe his butt with, shockers still have problems with breaking, and I'm not buying one just because his name is carved into the side of it. I'm also not going to "lose my drop" because he doesn't use one. Nor will I use an 18" barrel. They aren't "objectively better." I'm also not going to worry about putting another respected brand of grease or oil into my gun, just because some company rep tells me that my noid will explode as soon as it hits it. Curious, one guy says grease is horrible for the gun, another guy says oil is horrible for their gun... they use the same manufacturers solenoid... what gives? Oh, wait... the company puts their brand name on the side of the grease tube, right, forgot about that. I was unaware that Buna-n had such varying properties...

Here's where it comes in, some people don't like this milling. I personally don't. It's got nothing to do with the skill of the machinist, or the modeler. I just don't like the milling. You know what, that's ok! I don't care for the ND timmy either... or the dragon, species, ripper, or... well, the list goes on. I've never really cared for intimidators, barring possibly the Storm. That doesn't mean I think Jim is a piece of crap, or that Simon is a no-talent hack. I just don't really like the way they look. Don't I have the right to say that if others people have the right to say how awesome it is?

What would happen if this were some kid that did homemade hacks in his garage, and it were truly hideous? Would you defend him? Would you pile on anyone who said his work was disgusting? I don't see that happening out here. I see people putting up pics of their guns that they've invested their time and money into, and people dogpiling them telling them how much they suck, how much their gun sucks, and how they should go kill theirselves.

Gimme a break, shouldn't Jim or Simon (who are being paid to do this) be able to handle the fact that not everyone likes their work, or that some have the opinion that intimidators breed like barn-cats? Shouldn't Tom, the guys from MD, BLAST, pro-teams, full time techs, and every other "named" guy have to back up his/her words just like the rest of us? I feel that everyone is pretty much on the same level. Lord knows I've disagreed with things that factory techs and engineers have said on PBN before. Why shouldn't I? Because they work for the factory? Sorry, but that doesn't mean they get to violate physics or that their opinion is worth 2 cents more than anyone else's.

So, in closing, Jim, I must say, I don't really care for the milling. I think you're a top-quality guy though.

And Simon, you no-talent hack!, if I shipped you an empty box... say 14" X 12" X 12", what sort of something could you fit in there for me to test drive?! you know I gotta ask...

DK1

[Ripper machinist]

Dear engineers,

please stop designing intimidator bodies until you graduate from product design school.


sincerely, Money cant buy you taste.

Someone needs to slap Bob's design team, seriosly. Every time I look at it, it gets uglier.

i think they have just ran out of ideas for timmy bodys. next thing you know it ll be just a happy face....

Dk1, I never get mad at people telling me they do not like a particular design. I welcome criticism, I learn from it, adapt , and try to make my self better. Constructive criticism is always nice. But I know it is not possible to please everyone. And I get mad at people with comments like this. This has nothing to do with their feelings on a design. They just feel they have to get some kind of low blow in. These are the comments I feel degenerate the internet. Since you know, if they where in front of Me, Simon, mr. Kaye, or basicaly anyone, you know they would not say it so harshly. So if you can not say something as rude to someones face. Why do people feel just cause they have some anomity, that all their manners taught to them by their parents. Can just be thrown out the door.

This gun is exactly what the customer wanted, here is the sketch from them.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/099921.gif

And this is what they got.

http://www.cnc-machining.com/prototype/atomix/PIC3.JPG

I guess I was running out of ideas.

Jim

[evan123]

The classic was simple and looked good.

Classic, Ripper, GZ > Everything else.

And you do relize that the Ripper was in no way simple...that post made 0 sense.

[hAppy]

And you do relize that the Ripper was in no way simple...that post made 0 sense.

he means a simple look, dont think so hard, your brains will blow out your ears

Ripper machinist - i apologize for that statement, i understand your position

[Creative Mayhem]

Simon... Muzikman, Load and myself are still waiting for the Tex-ball designed timmy

[DK1]

Dk1, I never get mad at people telling me they do not like a particular design. I welcome criticism, I learn from it, adapt , and try to make my self better. Constructive criticism is always nice. But I know it is not possible to please everyone. And I get mad at people with comments like this. This has nothing to do with their feelings on a design. They just feel they have to get some kind of low blow in. These are the comments I feel degenerate the internet. Since you know, if they where in front of Me, Simon, mr. Kaye, or basicaly anyone, you know they would not say it so harshly. So if you can not say something as rude to someones face. Why do people feel just cause they have some anomity, that all their manners taught to them by their parents. Can just be thrown out the door.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I actually think the core of it is similar to what I was trying to say . People are very harsh on the internet. I was thinking about how harsh it is to blast someone just because they don't care for how something looks, and you're thinking about how those people are being hypercritical about the design (seeing as how it wasn't "Bob's design team" in the first place). I guess the point I was trying to make is, would *other* people be so upset with the critics if it were someone else's product, who we didn't know as a key guy in the industry?


This gun is exactly what the customer wanted, here is the sketch from them.
I guess I was running out of ideas.

Jim

Nah, I totally got that. It's not really your design, you were just doing what you were told/given. And I must say, seeing that drawing and the body together, anyone would be an idiot to suppose that you don't have skill in the execution there. I think the same thing when I see the X-mag with the face in the side of it, and the ND timmy. It's obvious that there was talent there, I just didn't care for the visuals. I guess my question is, do you find it asthetically pleasing?

DK1

[Ripper machinist]

Nah, I totally got that. It's not really your design, you were just doing what you were told/given. And I must say, seeing that drawing and the body together, anyone would be an idiot to suppose that you don't have skill in the execution there. I think the same thing when I see the X-mag with the face in the side of it, and the ND timmy. It's obvious that there was talent there, I just didn't care for the visuals. I guess my question is, do you find it asthetically pleasing?

DK1

I like it, But my opionin is tainted. you put a crap load of work into making and drawing a 3d cloud, you would love it to. But the reactions I have gotten from others in the shop, and bobs shop, are all promising. Again it will not appeal to all. I think it came out pretty clean in the end. Btw it is extremly hard to take someones 2d idea. And put it into 3d. A 2d artist does not have certain restrictions that I will have. LIke drawing sharp internal fillets. Or compensating how things will work out going over the top tube. Not being able to cut certain areas of the body, since it will make it non functional.

JIm

[Blazestorm]

Like I said in chat, if that is what the customer sent as a drawing and wanted you to do, you did a damn fine job making that come to life.

But it's not my thing

I like simplicity... on the milling... the anno.... is another story...