I raised a "Hype" kid

[slade]

as for the flatline shooting further than other barrels....thats hype to me. i can prove time and time again that at the same velocity other barrels will be just as consistent and shoot just as accurately as a flatline. and will be easier to clean and not jam on the slightest uneven balls.

ugh... i cant beleive you just said that... did you even READ the links that i put up??

http://www.northarc.com/~tinker/flatline.html

http://humane.sourceforge.net/publi...nda_effect.html

true, at the same velocity other barrels will shoot just as consistantly and accurately as the flatline, but they will NOT shoot farther. the flatline shooting farther is true, its not hype, and you cant disprove it. range does not depend solely on velocity, it depends on velocity and spin. have you ever shot a flatline?? it has a much flatter trajectory than any other barrel and will shoot farther, and if you turn it upside down it will shoot right into the ground. this is because of the coanda affect, as explained in the above links. backspin put on the ball will create lift, resulting in a flatter trajectory and greater range.

[SteelSoul]

Update on my son
We went and played paintball on fathers day and my son had an
He was playing with my Desert Fox and the sear is kinda worn so it doesnt fire all the time so I let him use my mag.
Guys I think he saw the light....
There were guys at the field with Impys. shockers, angels,timmy and ,trix's and my son ending up saying screw the timmy I want a mag....
He said he was going to post about it so lets see if he does.
Oh by the way Keltons uber trix broke and he ended up using a A-5
All in all very good time

Hey Goat if you read this again call me we are going to outlaw friday and my son wants to check you marker out again, think I am going to be looking for a new rt-pro

[kungfuhampster11]

what i would say to him is this "the reason you want to get e immy is so your gun can keep up with your friends guns right? well the reason your friends are getting all these really fast guns is because they arent very good at paintbal so they compensate for that with gun speed, if you want an elctronic gun thats fine, but you dont need a timmy to prove yourself" have him get an 04 bko/torpedo/barrel/blind bolt and he will be fine, just tell him hes better than his frineds so thats why there getting those guns, so it doesnt look like he will smoke em.

man, id be a good parent

[Digits]

OMG.. You would buy your kid a BKO??!? Thats almost as bad as physical abuse..

I don't every want to see anyone buying there kid a BKO.. Are you trying to get them out of the sport or something??!??

And with the extra $'s you spend on the torpedo, barrel, and blind bolt, you probablly could just get a B2K4 w/ PDS which is probablly a way better gun (i've only owned/had friends that have owned BKO's so don't quote me)..

A mag though?? My mag is my backup and it sits in my bag never getting used because if it goes down I jack one of my friends guns..

My mag still doesn't shoot though.. Makes me want to cry ... I want to fix it.. Ermm i'm gonna buy some good macroline and fix it

[kungfuhampster11]

whoops, i didnt know there was 3 pages to this thread, anyway, let him get what he wants

why are bko's so bad? most of the people i talk to say theyre great guns

[RiddalinJunkie08]

I've seen kids with tippmanns beat out guys with alias's because the kids with alias's could shoot fast, and that was it, the tippmann guys snuck around the field and backdoored half ot them

wait, who had which gun here?
-Mark

[Apollo]

i was playing wit the desert and it was a great gun still has alot of problems like breakin paint alot and the usual stuff. But i played wit my dads gun dude and i never shoot alot of paint so i only bring one pod! on the field wit me cause i shoot smart well i never thought it would be a problem. But! By the time i got somone out, and layin waste to some guys on the back of their startin point back so i could put their heads down long enuf to move up. i had to borrow another pod while the game was goin on lmao.i slowed down like suual but i loved it man it rocked i rem goatboys gun and dude it was sweet-o silent fast response nice gun didnt break on him all day and i love how my dads didnt break once that day thats like a new record. because contrary to what some peeps might think about my dad, hes not realy good wit his level 10 every thing else hes god but put a leel 10 in his hands and you'd think hes never picked a paintball gun up.

[barrel break]

First of all, No offense meant, but teach your son to spell and use proper grammer.

Now as to the gun, I am 15, been into paintball three years, and am on my second gun, a 2003 vert feed cocker. I started out with a 98 with some upgrades.
That 98 was bought entirely through my hard work that summer, my parents told me if I could afford it, I could buy it. I suddenly Felt the need for a new gun about 6 months ago, So I sold my 98 locally (got a damn good price for it too!) and settled on the cocker, I had the money to buy it from (working/birthday money from grandparents) So my dad reluctantly allowed me to buy it. On and off I try to buy a new gun, but my dad has made me a deal, I will not buy a new gun until after Paintball camp (Grandparents, my parents never would have) and I will work for the money to pay for it.

under no circumstances buy your kid a new gun. If he has to work for it, it will mean so much more, and he will be MUCH more careful in selecting which one...

[Thermus]

On a more serious note than my first post of the thread, you should refrain from buying your son anything he doesn't need, except on special occasions. Let him sell his current gun, and find a job babysitting, mowing lawns, chores around the house, whatever he wants to do, and work it from there. Let him buy whatever he wants when he's done working for himself. Chances are he will settle for a cheaper gun when he has to work for it. It will teach him a lesson about money as well. Spending an extra 500 dollars on something you really don't need is a big deal. Let him learn that through experience.

[slade]

First of all, No offense meant, but teach your son to spell and use proper grammer.

i second that motion

[GoatBoy]

First of all, No offense meant, but teach your son to spell and use proper grammer.

You misspelled 'grammar'. Don't make GoatBoy bust out the red pen.


Here's my take on the whole 'work for it' thing. What is the long term value of performing menial labor at probably minimum pay for overpriced equipment? While we are certainly regaled by everyone's tales of hard work and sweat at a young age, is it really a smart thing to do to your kids? Learning the value of a buck and hard work only goes so far. Working hard is one thing, working smart is another. Unless you plan on continuing a lifelong campaign of menial work, perhaps you should look a little further down the line.


I'm not saying that parents should flat out buy the stuff for their kids... But they can exact a toll which has more meaning and value than sending the kids off to the mines, especially if the parents have the money. That's what parents are for.




Steelsoul: It's funny you should mention the desert fox; we had another thread about it a long time ago, and one of the things I pointed out was in fact the sear/trigger. Where did you guys go on Sunday? I was at Outlaw, but I was there like, 1:30ish.


Apollo: Eh, my gun's not THAT quiet; it's a little quieter than, say, your dad's mag because of the barrel and the ULE body. I'll see if I can make it out on Friday...



I definitely need a new can of bugspray for night ball. And some new lenses; I took like 4 goggle hits on Sunday

[Dufus]

or shooting zap paint, right?

chronic?

[SteelSoul]

Thanks goat
We went to TXPB for the morning and had a good time as you can tell
I got the FOx from a guy here for a good price and I am working with the sear, it has seen some heavy use and I am going to try and grind the sear sharp again, it is rounded so it double fires sometimes and then will just not even shoot sometimes. I got a rebulid kit from ICD and replaced all spring and O-Rings
I will see how things work out on that

Thanks for everyone posting on this. I hope my son see's that it isnt about Hype but about what you want. He has a new drive to earn money and save, and as an extra bonus I will match him dollar for dollar for his gear.

Thanks again peeps


SS

[Digits]

You misspelled 'grammar'. Don't make GoatBoy bust out the red pen.


Here's my take on the whole 'work for it' thing. What is the long term value of performing menial labor at probably minimum pay for overpriced equipment? While we are certainly regaled by everyone's tales of hard work and sweat at a young age, is it really a smart thing to do to your kids? Learning the value of a buck and hard work only goes so far. Working hard is one thing, working smart is another. Unless you plan on continuing a lifelong campaign of menial work, perhaps you should look a little further down the line.


I'm not saying that parents should flat out buy the stuff for their kids... But they can exact a toll which has more meaning and value than sending the kids off to the mines, especially if the parents have the money. That's what parents are for.




Steelsoul: It's funny you should mention the desert fox; we had another thread about it a long time ago, and one of the things I pointed out was in fact the sear/trigger. Where did you guys go on Sunday? I was at Outlaw, but I was there like, 1:30ish.


Apollo: Eh, my gun's not THAT quiet; it's a little quieter than, say, your dad's mag because of the barrel and the ULE body. I'll see if I can make it out on Friday...



I definitely need a new can of bugspray for night ball. And some new lenses; I took like 4 goggle hits on Sunday

word to that.. He's a kid.. Let him have fun while he's young.. We all know that it aint as easy when you grow up so why not make it easy for him for a few years..

And the matching money thing is good.. My parents were going to do that with a car for me and my brother.. But it kind of fell off after awhile lol

[sharpshooter1286]

I started out when I was 9, got a regular model 98 when I was 10, then when i was 13 and had enough money I got a 98 custom with reactive trigger, flatline, double trigger, military stock, dye sticky grips, lapco foregrip, drop forward and sight and stuff. that gun was sweet. then i traded it for a mag, which i played with for about a year, and then i recently sold it, so right now im gun-less. I don't have alot of money to spend on a new gun, and I don't feel like working crappy jobs to get it.