Fly vs Alias

[angelbeast24]

alais hands down

even kno i love angels im not a fan of the fly i just dont like it id rather shoot an lcd with eyes over a fly

[SlipknotX556]

also the dm4 is really really easy to take care of, more so than the angel or the timmy in my opinion.

That is very true. A timmy is very easy to maintain, but if it breaks on you, will have a problem. My 2k2 has been broken for awhile, I finally started to try to fix it last night, I started at around 8pm, finally had it all fixed by 4am, I only took one 1/2 hour break.

Like Magman said, give a DM4 a try, see what you like.

[elpimpo]

whats wrong with it? nothing should take that long to fix

[jesseyo13]

I would go with the speed with eyes over almost anything. You can find them used your 800-900.

[SlipknotX556]

whats wrong with it? nothing should take that long to fix

Well, the actual time it took to locate the problem was the longest. At first I though it was the cupseal, so it took a long time to get that out and lube that up. Put the gun back together, still leaked. Then I lubed the LPR, HPR, took them totally apart, then put the gun together, still leaked. Then I replaced every O ring in the gun, still leaked. Then I decided to check my noid, when I opened it, I saw that the noid was the problem, there was some kind of tape or something in it, so I cleaned it all up, then I replaced all the hose lines, then it finally stopped leaking. Now the thing is ripping like never before.

[elpimpo]

that sux, at least your seleniod wasnt blown. when mine was leaking thats what i was affraid of but it turned out to be a hose

[SlipknotX556]

that sux, at least your seleniod wasnt blown. when mine was leaking thats what i was affraid of but it turned out to be a hose

I did have to replace my noid, not to long ago, because it did blow, for some reason, which I never solved. I was playing one day, then on my last game, a giant leak started near the end of my game, so I left, when I got home, I noticed some pieces in the noid were broken, I was not able to fix it, so I just ordered a new noid.

[FSU_Paintball]

That's a difficult choice.

I'm going to say timmy just because you've got a tech down the street, but you really need to choose the one you like to shoot more

[MagRipper214]

Fly. Period. No questions asked. Alias will have more kick than the fly, and the fly is faster. the original Angel design was based off printing press pnuematic rams, which cycle at around 150 times a second. so theoretically, the fly could shoot 150 times a second. the fly is better, definately. It doesnt even have alot of milling, and its still 1300 dollars. The Alias is like, 1250 or something, and it has milling up the butt. i bet a good 300-400 dollars of the alias is anno and milling. thats what most timmies are. if you want a good electropnuematic gun, just buy The One, get a good barrel kit, fast hopper, new hpr, superfly bolt, and your set. timmies are just super expensive, super fancy electropnuematic spyders. Fly is god

[DK1]

Fly. Period. No questions asked. Alias will have more kick than the fly, and the fly is faster. the original Angel design was based off printing press pnuematic rams, which cycle at around 150 times a second. so theoretically, the fly could shoot 150 times a second. the fly is better, definately. It doesnt even have alot of milling, and its still 1300 dollars. The Alias is like, 1250 or something, and it has milling up the butt. i bet a good 300-400 dollars of the alias is anno and milling. thats what most timmies are. if you want a good electropnuematic gun, just buy The One, get a good barrel kit, fast hopper, new hpr, superfly bolt, and your set. timmies are just super expensive, super fancy electropnuematic spyders. Fly is god

While I would tend to agree that an angel is a little higher quality than an intimidator, I think that is some exaggeration going on there.

First off, just because a printing press ram is that fast, it doesn't mean an angel is. Have you ever looked at an angel ram? You know what they look like?... bushy rams... viking rams... they are all basically the same. Ram speed is mainly dependant on LPR pressure, ram flow, hammer/bolt weight, and friction. The angel isn't any better than anything else in those categories.

My opinion is this. I don't like the A4 triggers. They feel mushy, and there is no feedback/responsiveness. The vernier adjustments are difficult to set, believe it or not, because they move when you lock them down with the set screws. The WDP locking feed neck is a piece, imo. The oring system stinks. I think the time of mini-regs has passed, LPR adjustment is cumbersome for no reason. Other than that, I think they are pretty nice markers.

I'll be honest, I've never really liked intimidators. I like some of the people that make them, but I've never really cared for the markers themselves. They do have good points, one of which is they are very, very light. They take cocker threaded barrels. It looks like with the alias they have finally got rid of the stupid feedneck system that WGP uses. The alias doesn't look to bad.

Compared, I think it's a wash. Both guns have good/bad points. I think for my personal trigger preference I'd go with an alias, but I've never seen one up close. I know A4's feel like quality, I've never been awestruck by the quality of intimidators.

If it were my money, I'd look at a custom viking (probably my top pick), maybe a cyborg, or even a Bonebrake Bushmaster or Freestyle (if they have managed to sort out the FS's efficiency). The BB ICD guns look really nice, and aren't too stupidly expensive.

DK1

[Alux]

I would get a DM4, they rip, very little kick, good re-sale value, and like someone else mentioned its gonna be very efficient once Evolve releases their new bolt kits.

[68magOwner]

either will be fast as hiel and neither will chop, i choose the FLY for the overall feel

personally, id pick up a custom viking or a cyborg though

[Evil1]

I just got a blue to black alias yesterday and it is awesome. I can't wait to really put some good paint through it. I shot about 2 hoppers of paint that was from before Halloween and it was dimpled a little and I didn't break or chop one ball!