Spyder SE or Shutter???????

[DarkPhoenix]

I would have to say the Black Dragon, it is a spyder clone with a electronic grip frame, for around the price of a shutter.

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Originally posted by Cha0tic


mags work just fine on co2, as long as you are smart about it. they were designed in a time of co2...you need a remote or expansion chamber, and an anti- siphon tube in your tank. a stock spyder will run much worse on co2 than a mag will. the mag will also be more consistant over the chrono.

yes they were designed on co2. more than likely, with the exception of really cold states in the dead of winter, a remote and/or ex chamber will allow the mag to run fine on co2. but a stock mag new alone is 240. a xchamber and remote would run him at least another 30 bucks. being that he said for under $200, then a stock mag would be no good. maybe in warm weather, but i know stock my mag would never run on co2. and please don't take that as a flame chaotic, i kinda re-read it and would see where i was coming back with an attitude, but i'm not.

[Sir. Foxalot]

All very good points guys. I am giving him all of the info you guys have posted up and now he is even more confused. Oh well. He has somthing against savin up because if he saved just a little more he could get a pretty cool mag but thanx again for all of your ideas!

[Thor the Mighty]

whoever this guy is is a dumb goon. he should save up. GET A MAG! LEARN FROM MY MISTAKES

[Sir. Foxalot]

LOL thanx Mike Ill let him know

[Cha0tic]

the big ragu- you can get full mag packages in the 200's. and when set up with expansion chamber/ remote/ anti-siphon, you can run it almost anywhere. you just have to look around and wait for a deal.

[shupore]

spyder

If he has to get a spyder and wants to upgraded it go with the compact 2000. I started with the compact and kept upgrading till I had a low pressure bob long millenium. I regret buying the spyder cuz i spent over 500 dollars on the spyder, when I could have used that money to get stuff for my sweet used mag I just got.

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Originally posted by Cha0tic
the big ragu- you can get full mag packages in the 200's. and when set up with expansion chamber/ remote/ anti-siphon, you can run it almost anywhere. you just have to look around and wait for a deal.

really? i guess i'm just not looking in the right places. the cheapest new mag i've ever seen was 220 without a barrel or asa. i guess i just suck. oh well. not like i'll be buying any stock mags anyways.

[toymyster]

Why don't you get a 'Mag???? If you have to go with a spyder, get the Xtra, that's the vert. feed model, or a Bob Long Millennium!!!! And remember, no matter how much $$ you spend on a spyder, it's still just a spyder!!!

[PsychoMag]

A spyder is just a spyder...change a color and they make a new gun...add a part and make two new guns....still a spyder. Nothing more, nothing less. Save his $$ buy a compact 2 in 1 or something cheep since spyders are like cockers, always in need of an upgrade or two, not that it helps performance...lol... I like miscue's idea personally...go for a piranna if he cant get a used mag. Piranna's are the same for less $$ and work well, unlike other spinoffs like rebels that are crappy...

just my $.02

[cphilip]

Someone sent me a link last week to one of the big online sites that had TL's for $129 plus $10 shiping both Black and Silver. Might have been paintballgear.com not sure. But they are cheap now. I say the TL. The SE is just a dressed up TL. And the Shutter just has a cool color and a real cheap regulator and guage on it. One you would want to upgrade anyway. So for the money get the TL and upgrade the bolt and put a nice reg or stabilizer on it. And a nice barrel or two or Freak it.

[cphilip]

Oh here it is. Its the TL Plus and it is $124.99. Both black and silver the same. Shutters are $159.

http://www.paintballgear.net/010-4066.html

[Sir. Foxalot]

WOW i didnt think there would be that many responses... cool I talked to him last night and he says that the reason he doesnt want to spend more then 200 is because he isnt that into paintballing. Just somthing better then a rental when he plays with me so thanx guys

[Thor the Mighty]

tell him thats what i thought when i made the "big mistake" the first time around, and once i started playing with "it", i wanted a better gun and that you should start off better than with a gun like "that"

[toymyster]

I think most of us were there at one time or another, I know I thought "I'm only going to play a couple times a year" So you might want to let him know, that's how all junkies start, so might as well start with a good gun and save in the long run!!!!