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  • wantamag
    Rec Poster
    • Mar 2003
    • 5055

    #16
    i heard yes heard that these things were slow....il take the fact that theve been out for 5 years or so and ive never seeon one in real life acct for something......

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    • afultz075
      Registered User
      • May 2004
      • 779

      #17
      Those Epics seem like a cool idea and all, but if I had to shell out $700 for a mech i'd take a Blazer or another RT any day.

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      • jpdgas
        Don't Get Eliminated!!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 222

        #18
        They are actually much better than you may think. They arent a flawed design, just a different idea, which is the way progress comes about (just ask AGD)

        My teammate has one, and I love it. The trigger is the cleanest, crispest (its a word now) trigger on a mech marker that ive ever felt. It is very consistent as long as your paint/barrel match is good. very small and lite, and mechanically simple. Customer service is awesome, and you can actually pick them up for about 450 from the manufacturer. I'd pick one up if I didn't love my mag so much.

        The downside is rof, which isnt a downside for me. It peaks at around 7-9bps i believe, which is fine for me, since i play scenario and I don't have the need to spray paint. If rof is your main goal, this isn't for you. But if you like reliability and innovation, i suggest trying it. They can be found at SC Village to try out most weekends, just ask!

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        • Spartan X
          EviL Ambassador
          • Apr 2003
          • 1296

          #19
          Originally posted by jpdgas
          They are actually much better than you may think. They arent a flawed design, just a different idea, which is the way progress comes about (just ask AGD)

          My teammate has one, and I love it. The trigger is the cleanest, crispest (its a word now) trigger on a mech marker that ive ever felt. It is very consistent as long as your paint/barrel match is good. very small and lite, and mechanically simple. Customer service is awesome, and you can actually pick them up for about 450 from the manufacturer. I'd pick one up if I didn't love my mag so much.

          The downside is rof, which isnt a downside for me. It peaks at around 7-9bps i believe, which is fine for me, since i play scenario and I don't have the need to spray paint. If rof is your main goal, this isn't for you. But if you like reliability and innovation, i suggest trying it. They can be found at SC Village to try out most weekends, just ask!

          beat me to it.

          Alot of the guys above do not know much about what they are talking about. I've been following the epic for 2 years now. The electro version is not out yet cause they want to perfect the disign and work on advertising some more.

          The epic can handle 15 bps if you can shoot it. It sells for $450 and they have sales some times for $400. It's VERY light and very small and compact. It make s agreat Rec baller gun or a lender. if it were cheaper it would be better then a tippmann for rentals.

          More improvments are coming for the epic this year, you will see them on my epic that I'll be bringing to IAO. Look for me in the Brass Eagle Owners group, I'll be the tallest in the group. I'll be there tuesday evening to sunday.
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          • mixwell2
            Searching for Tom Kaye
            • Oct 2003
            • 221

            #20
            Thanks Guys for the input. Just like anything else we will need to shoot it to get a good impression on it. I think the ref meant $750 for the electro when it is available.
            So to sum up your opinions.
            Pros: reliable, good customer service, sweet trigger, inexpensive

            Cons: "slow" rate of fire 9-10 BPS, looks are very you like it or don't

            I will try to find someone at SC who let let me shoot it.

            thanks again guys for all your input
            Last edited by mixwell2; 07-01-2004, 02:58 PM.
            who cares how your marker looks...just move fast and shoot straight

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            • mixwell2
              Searching for Tom Kaye
              • Oct 2003
              • 221

              #21
              Originally posted by brianlojeck
              wow, another lefty at HSP, I was starting to think I was the only one by the way I always seem to be left alone on the left side of the field, trying to hold back the entire other side's right-handed division with my KP. ;-)
              yeah i know what you mean. I was holding off the whole left side including the zipper and the middle left. The ref counted 10 kills including 2 "banzi runs" at me. That little car/wagon became my best friend.
              who cares how your marker looks...just move fast and shoot straight

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              • Target Practice
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                • Nov 2003
                • 3180

                #22
                Originally posted by Gideon1331
                = ugly
                Whoa! Nice Shocker!


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                • brianlojeck
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 484

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mixwell2
                  yeah i know what you mean. I was holding off the whole left side including the zipper and the middle left. The ref counted 10 kills including 2 "banzi runs" at me. That little car/wagon became my best friend.
                  well, I can say this for sure, you're a hell of a lot better then I am. ;-)

                  on that side, on that field, I usually make it to the near side of the zipper, maybe get a kill, and eventually get pasted by all the semi-auto guys sitting in the zipper waiting for me.
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                  • mixwell2
                    Searching for Tom Kaye
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 221

                    #24
                    Originally posted by brianlojeck
                    well, I can say this for sure, you're a hell of a lot better then I am. ;-)

                    on that side, on that field, I usually make it to the near side of the zipper, maybe get a kill, and eventually get pasted by all the semi-auto guys sitting in the zipper waiting for me.
                    that zipper is a killing box. Let them come to you and you'll be the one doing the pasting

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                    who cares how your marker looks...just move fast and shoot straight

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                    • FragTek
                      RPG DevilMAG Owner
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2382

                      #25
                      I thought about purchasing one of these for the sole purpose of interest... The design itself intrigues me to the point of purchase, almost....

                      I would have to assume that there is ZERO recoil since there isn't a bolt. Anyone know how efficient they are? I may end up buying one just for grins to see how I like the design.

                      Anyone have a vid of one of these in action? Or a test fire vid?

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                      • p8ntball72
                        www.southwestvoodoo.com
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 467

                        #26
                        I have posted these before..take a look
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                        • personman

                          #27
                          Originally posted by FragTek
                          I would have to assume that there is ZERO recoil since there isn't a bolt.
                          Not nessicarily ZERO, but I bet there is very little. The ball still has to leave the barrel which causes a little kick, especially with all that air behind it. But yeah it probably doesnt have much kick at all.

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                          • FragTek
                            RPG DevilMAG Owner
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2382

                            #28
                            Let's equate the word zero to the marker with the least amount of kick on the market.

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                            • jpdgas
                              Don't Get Eliminated!!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 222

                              #29
                              There is hardly any kick at all. I am pretty sure that it is more efficiant than my mag, but don't hold me to it.

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                              • Spartan X
                                EviL Ambassador
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 1296

                                #30
                                The epic has the least amount of kick out of any paintball gun because the only moving part other then the trigger is the trap door witch is a very small peice of delrin.

                                You could say, The epic is the most accurate gun made cause it has the least kick.

                                The efficiancy is actually the same as a Mag. because it uses a Dump spool valve.
                                EviL-

                                Oh come Hither my Evil friends. Let us dance upon our MINION of pure EviL apon the sup air ball field. Let us give thanks for this EviL OMEN that the Lord AVATAR has given to us. Let us crawl apon this wicked earth, converting the people to our HEATHEN ways, let us PIMP them with our SCION. Let us be faithfull till Judgement day, when EviL shall finally RULE THE WORLD.

                                http://www.nazgulclan.com/ryouko/fridaynight3-1.wmv

                                http://www.greenshines.com/control/media/1078969315.wmv

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