The rain of terror continues..... PMI falls victim to SP

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  • Pickle
    Carrier of the big stick!
    • Apr 2004
    • 476

    #31
    True, but I am not going to cave in because of the odds. I can't and won't just follow the mindless hoards
    "Don't hit at all if you can help it; don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it; but if you do hit him, put him to sleep."
    -Theodore Roosevelt, February 17, 1899

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    • BobTheCow63
      IAO Gold Star winner (BTK)
      • Dec 2002
      • 3832

      #32
      It's rainin' terror... halleluja it's rainin' terror...

      /grammar attack
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      • spantol
        Turgid Member
        • Sep 2002
        • 1024

        #33
        Pop the phrase "Contributory Patent Infringement" into Google.

        Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
        How can they say this also effects the Pimp Kit? It's a kit, not a whole gun. I read with some other Pimp Kit info, that Evil made it as a kit to get around Sp's patent. Ahh this is just getting crazy.

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        • WenULiVeUdiE
          Force of Nature Staff
          • Jan 2004
          • 1982

          #34
          Originally posted by WARPED1
          I'm surprised they didn't get nailed for the Omen
          I'm sure they were. But maybe they mentioned the Pimp instead of Omen is b/c it is their higher end or something.
          Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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          • ProX9
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 336

            #35
            People who attack grammar in the middle of summer should shoot themselves for lack of anything better to do.
            You better watch yo' self B!

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            • gtrsi
              Automag?
              • Dec 2001
              • 5786

              #36
              Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
              if you actually think either of those companies actually paid Smart Parts a dime for their agreements I've got some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you...

              yes actually they do. I cant remember who posted but if a comapny x sues company y for copyright infringment, they reach an agreement and them lic that agreement with other companies I believe there is a small window in which that lic fee can operate.

              The problem is, if SP could charge one company pennes, dye, and the next millions it would have a huge effect on our small market.
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              • DiRTyBuNNy
                Registered User
                • Sep 2001
                • 4854

                #37
                Originally posted by gtrsi
                yes actually they do. I cant remember who posted but if a comapny x sues company y for copyright infringment, they reach an agreement and them lic that agreement with other companies I believe there is a small window in which that lic fee can operate.

                The problem is, if SP could charge one company pennes, dye, and the next millions it would have a huge effect on our small market.
                what the heck are you trying to say? i can bet you money both Dye and NPS never paid SP one red cent for their agreements...cross-licensing of patents..or threatening to drop SP from your stores does not involve paying SP money...do your research next time before saying something you know nothing about..
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                • cphilip
                  Former Moderator

                  • Jun 2026
                  • 16216

                  #38
                  Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
                  what the heck are you trying to say?

                  When you figure him out splain it to me Dan....


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                  • DiRTyBuNNy
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 4854

                    #39
                    Originally posted by cphilip
                    When you figure him out splain it to me Dan....
                    will do, Boss.
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                    • TeamNausea
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1111

                      #40
                      DB- would you explain to me how they didnt pay any? Im asking seriously not trying to say your wrong or anything.. I thought SP got money to allow them to sell the electro

                      Manike-It's still early days. One thing for sure is that the future is going to be interesting, and we intend to be a BIG part of it.

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                      • cphilip
                        Former Moderator

                        • Jun 2026
                        • 16216

                        #41
                        Originally posted by TeamNausea
                        DB- would you explain to me how they didnt pay any? Im asking seriously not trying to say your wrong or anything.. I thought SP got money to allow them to sell the electro

                        Maybe they paid a Dollar.... maybe they promised thier first born... lots of things are done that way. Thats can be a reason they will not disclose the terms. It may be more for SP's not wanting anyone to know how cheap they settling to get full control and lend credence to thier position. They may be making it so sweet everyone rolling over. They may want pennies per marker in the end. They may just NEED pennies per marker to be rich. Who knows....


                        AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

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                        • gtrsi
                          Automag?
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 5786

                          #42
                          Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
                          do your research next time before saying something you know nothing about..

                          Everytime I read one of your post you make it sound as if you know everything that is going on in the pb world. Why dont YOU explain to ME how it is going down with some facts rather than jaded conjecture.

                          BTW,
                          where the hell has any real research been done on this specific subject. All I here is the pb world is going to hell in a handbasket and intellegent know it alls, yes thats you, sit on the sidelines with your hands in your pockets. I will be awaiting some real info on this issue and not he said she said bs.
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                          • DiRTyBuNNy
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 4854

                            #43
                            Originally posted by gtrsi
                            Everytime I read one of your post you make it sound as if you know everything that is going on in the pb world. Why dont YOU explain to ME how it is going down with some facts rather than jaded conjecture.
                            maybe I sound that way because i do know what's going on although I don't know anymore than anyone else who DOES THEIR research. You can find the answer if you look for it.

                            as for how I know...Dave DeHaan (Youngblood to the rest of you) has said everything but confirming the fact that Dye's SP licensing was tied to Dye's ownership of the Matrix patents...Wasn't it strange that SP couldn't get the shocker to work until they went to a spool valve design and Dye supposedly rolls over not long after...hhmm..i wonder...doesn't take a rocket scientist...
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                            • gtrsi
                              Automag?
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 5786

                              #44
                              Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
                              maybe I sound that way because i do know what's going on although I don't know anymore than anyone else who DOES THEIR research. You can find the answer if you look for it.

                              ...doesn't take a rocket scientist...
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                              • SlartyBartFast
                                The Flying Scotsman
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 2940

                                #45
                                Originally posted by cphilip
                                Maybe they paid a Dollar.... maybe they promised thier first born... lots of things are done that way. Thats can be a reason they will not disclose the terms. It may be more for SP's not wanting anyone to know how cheap they settling to get full control and lend credence to thier position. They may be making it so sweet everyone rolling over. They may want pennies per marker in the end. They may just NEED pennies per marker to be rich. Who knows....
                                That's the second nastiest thing about the legal system (the first is how easy it is to sue/action someone with impunity). It's probably the easiest to fix too.

                                Once a court action is publicly taken, ALL proceedings and outcomes should be made public. That should include all threats/offers made before the court action was taken.

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