A-5 vs RT/Tac1

[Jack & Coke]

Is this for Rec. ball (walk-on), or Senario (big games)?

During big senario games, it's not uncommon for them to have problems with HPA compressors and max fills they can give you. If you don't want to deal with re-filling head-aches (low fills, long lines), CO2 is the way to go. In that case, go A-5.

[RRfireblade]

I say A5.

Best bang for the buck. (Value)

Less maintainance than a Mag

Far simpler design than a Mag and more reliable

Almost fool proof, will run on almost anything

Doesn't require any 'tweaking' or 'tuning' at all

Comes with a force feed loader and it's already 'intellifed on top of that

Endless scenerio options including and beyond items that will mount to a piccinny rail.

IMO.

[ZapTheMad]

I say Mag for rate of fire. I played my first scenario a couple weeks ago. The RT mags are way fast when set up properly. It's easy to exceed 20 BPS with an X-valve and a good adjustable tank. I tried out some Tippmans while I was there and the rate of fire is just not anywhere close. You may spend more on it to start but it will last forever and you will always be happy with it.

[Brophog]

Is this for Rec. ball (walk-on), or Senario (big games)?

During big senario games, it's not uncommon for them to have problems with HPA compressors and max fills they can give you. If you don't want to deal with re-filling head-aches (low fills, long lines), CO2 is the way to go. In that case, go A-5.

That's an excellent point. Ironically, at some of the games I've been to in recent months, it has been the other way around. Great 4500 HPa fills, and lousy, long line, inadequate CO2 fills.

I prefer to have both options available.

[Brophog]

I say Mag for rate of fire. I played my first scenario a couple weeks ago. The RT mags are way fast when set up properly. It's easy to exceed 20 BPS with an X-valve and a good adjustable tank. I tried out some Tippmans while I was there and the rate of fire is just not anywhere close. You may spend more on it to start but it will last forever and you will always be happy with it.

Well sure, if you set your gun up to bounce like that, there won't be a comparable rate of fire. That's why some fields aren't allowing either RT style mags or RT style tippmanns.

[slasherdan]

There is one difference between the A-5 and T1 ..

Have both ....

The difference really only comes into how one plays the game. Here is something that came up recently with my two markers.

If I shot just one ball out of my T1 it would curve. If I rapid fired it I had a 6 inch grouping at 70 feet.

I shot one ball out of the A-5 and I hit my target ...

From what I've seen on the forum this is due to AGD's X-valve and how it works.

I tested this on all my friends Mags and found the exact same issue.

With a E-frame I have a better chance of shooting at the same levels as my T1. But if I want to go out and hunt someone down in a scenario, I don't want to lay down fire as much as tag the doogie with one shot.

When I hit a speedball field I pull out the T1. When I rec-ball I flip a coin. When I go to a scenario, I pull out the A-5.

If he only wants to play rec and scenario I'd say the A-5. When he gets hooked and looks to upgrade ... go AGD ....

Tom always says it best when he says "Everyone owns a Tippmann."

[TheTramp]

Someone said it above and I'll say it again....this isn't exactly an equal comparison

The A-5 is a nice reliable marker (with some anti-chop due to the cyclone) that costs ~$250
The Tac-1 is a fast reliable top of the line scenario marker that costs ~$450

That extra $200 is important to some people. If I had a choise between an A-5 and a Tac-1 in a give-away OF COURSE I'd go for the TAC.

THe real question your father has to ask himself is: does he want to pay the extra $200 for the significant increase in speed and almost perfect anti-chop ability of the TAC. I'd do it but that's because I tend to want the best and I'm willing to pay more for it.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

As usual, there is a lot of excellent advice here.

If it comes down to price, the A-5 wins hands down. The Tac-One costs more OOB, and will need an HPA tank, and a hopper. But for that $ you get a higher quality marker, that will perform a bit better. If you want good all-weather performance out of the A-5, you will need an HPA tank, anyway, so it's not germane to mention that as an extra cost of the Tac-One.

I always reccomend Tippmans for people just starting out, for their reliability, commonality and low price. For a more serious player, someone who likes to [I]like[/] his equipment, I'd reccomend the AGD product. The quality of machining and materials is noticeably higher, and this site gives you some idea of the support from both the community and the company.

[Phobos]

if you own a mag there is the added bonus of interchangable parts. All of my friends have slowly converted to mags and it is nice.