Ok im looking for a new gun around $850, can anyone give me their opinions?

[paintball_BBBRRR]

Wow

That is a great point phil...that is very true. The best advice i can get is opinions but for me to know for sure i need to try the gun. Everyone still keep throwing me some options...i want a gun and i need some help so name some good guns!

[jesseyo13]

amen phil, amen . People dont read the manual and thats were their problem is. The marker is not one of the easiest to set up, but like phil with my ir3 I didnt brake or bust one ball in over 10k.

If you can easily get trixs fixed and parts are readily availible and dont need to be shipped every time go with that. If you dont mind droping 150 into a trix to make it effeicient than thats what I would go with.

[paintball_BBBRRR]

hmm..

well i want a gun thats not gunna make me pay more over the course of time. I want a gun thats ready to play out of the box...

[SlipknotX556]

Used HK speed.

[Skoad]

dye trix out of the box will get you around 900 shots on a 68/4500 fill when set up right. Add the freeflow bolt and you double that.


Go to a field or store and check out what they have. Pick them up, hold them, shoot them if you can. Find one you like.

[teufelhunden]

Who ever set it up forgot to do one thing. Their rod was too long. ( did that sentence seem odd to anyone else?). He needed to shave it down just a drop. You wont it so its just sticking up about 1/16. I have my a4 set for the halo and it works fine.
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Or, get a gun with a decent anti chop system [eyes..] and don't worry about it.

[hobbesTZ]

It sounds like you're looking into angels. If you do, go for the Angel 4 from Paintball Gateway. $800 is a sweet price.

[afultz075]

Vikings and E-mags are probably the lowest maintinence markers in that range I know of.

Shockers are real nice guns in that range. I know two kids that have them and they are light as hell and fast as well. They do seem to be a little heavy on the maintinence side of things from what they've told me.

[Gambit1106]

I have owned a Dye trix, 2K3 shocker, Speed, IR3, A4, Eblade cocker, several mags including e and x mag and now have a Viking. (yes I am a whore) I enjoyed them all, but here is my breakdown:

Dye Trix: Fast, moderate to mantain it, too may o-rings, poor effiency out of the box, may upgrades

2K3 Shocker:fast but my trix was faster, Easier to maintain than trix; but same concept as trix, light and small ( I have gorilla hands and it felt too small.) also poor effiency out of box, not much to upgrade but bolt to gain better effiency

Speed/ A4: fast easy to maintain, decent effiency, opti trigger is something I could not get a feel for, i like the feel of a switch. A4 is a speed for the most part with a few extras such as an LCD

Eblade: I liked it but just don't have the time to mess with it to get the settings perfect. Easy to maintain when setup right

Mags: mantinence is minimal, level 10 will save you when tuned, effiency is OK, fast on the e and x mag

viking: fast, minimal matinence like a mag, not to much to tune tweak, awesome effiency when broken in, nothing to upgrade. if you get a warranty card you are set for life on the gun. warranty does not transfer to second owner (like mine, but they still did a tuneup on mine under warranty for just the cost of shipping)

I know people will argue about some things but this is my opinion on the guns I have owned. I could also go into more detail but its 2:30am I am half asleep and should be working.

[magman007]

Ok, first off, the vid of Mike Evans, with the intellifeed speed, well lets just say, that mike has wisend up, and he now rocks the dm4, and is the maker of the very good series of Dm4 Videos.

Trust me when i tell you to go with the matrix. Honestly.

I was a long time mag user, i had a classic, rtp, emag, and a rare SFL e-mag. these were my babies. I loved each and every one, but not as much as i loved my trix, and i love my dm4 now.

I got rid of my sfl, to get my toxic trix. THe thing was amazing, smoothe as butter, no kick, and an amazingly fast trigger. It did not have eyes, but i never chopped with it. EVER. the bolt is softer than level 10 if you tune the lpr correctly.

Then, i got dumb. I wanted an angel. So, like an idiot, i traded my trix, for a speed. The gun was fast, and i never used sensi, because it broke, and i didnt feel like replacing it. Dont give me that crap about not sanding down my sensi rod either, because i did, and it still broke. The speed, well, i hated the space frame, and i hated the opto trigger. I even did the switch mod, and i still found it mushy, and not to my standards, not after comming from that awesome matrix.

Then i got a dm4. Very similar to my matrix, just thinner, lighter, and sexier, and with eyes. AWESOME GUN.

I wholeheartedly reccomend the dye matrix. They come with eyes, which is just an added precaution, and isnt even really needed. Also i saw 1200 shots from a 68/45. Granted, i had the leethal mods, but they didnt make that much of a difference any ways.

the trix is fast, easy trigger to set up, not mushy, and smoothe as butter. When i sold the speed, and started saving money, i had alot of options, timmy, fly4(which i test drove, and was very nice, but, it had the same crappy trigger) and the dm4. As you can tell, i feel the matrix is the best gun on the market at the moment, and i will reccomend them till the end.

The e cocker is nice, but i dispise them, for the simple fact, that they can give you alot of trouble, they are slow, and eblades, suck. the race frame, i will admit, is much nicer, but its still on a cocker, and that didnt suit me. for 800+ dollars, you shouldnt have to tune your marker past lube and orings.

Also, the matrix, once couppled with Slick Honey lube, allows you to run your LPR at insanely low pressure, which will make it more efficient, and allow it to be softer on paint. Sadly, the lube dye supplies with the marker, is absolute crap. If you get the trix, open it up, strip off all of the dye lube from the bolt and the lpr, re lube with slickhoney, and go.

again, i reccomend the matrix. many upgrades, to make it your own, even though they are not necessary by any means, but for yucks, there are aftermarket... bolts...triggers....lpr's.... boards(get the tadao, best programming evar) frames, breaches for other threaded barrels(stock is cocker threaded) and so on and so fourth.

i reccomend going to www.thematrixcenter.com

https://www.compulsivepaintball.com

for upgrades

and for info...

https://www.matrixowner.com

and the matrix forum on pb nation.

also, dye has its own technical forum located at

http://www.dyematrix.com/forum/

happy buying



edit: i forgot to mention, that dye's customer service is really good, it rivals AGD's in my opinion

[GT]

viking or a timmy. Hell if you can grab an extra 75 bucks you can pick up a new 04 vik.

everything else is just crap...

[Skoad]

Magman007, it seems we have to do this at least twice a day

[sneakyhacker420]

a used viking... 03 or 04 (if you're good at negotiations)



nuff said.

[magman007]

Magman007, it seems we have to do this at least twice a day

hehehe ive noticed! hey, we are doing good work tho

[paintball_BBBRRR]

hey

Is the new york matrix or whatever similar to a dye matrix? What are the differences? Is $750 for a new matrix a good deal?