Away around SP!!!

[Smoke]

OK this is what im thinking TK was talking about laying low for a while and then starting up again with a different name(for tournys) well why doesnt Tom Start up in Canada I mean theres not american patents in Canada or the Uk is there? So just start up like a partner company that sells its products in canada and we buy them from canada.

About once a week somebody posts a thread saying this exact same thing.

It won't work. At all.

[JimmyBeam]

theres always ways around it, make it in china for example....

but why take an american made product and move over there. im sure TK has his own plans about this whole situation

[WARPED1]

I thought that was called "smart parts"?

Anyways, a screwed up patent system is independant of a country's economic philosophy. The US patent system was intended to benefit the consumer by rewarding innovation, if only for a time, not for lawyers to go patent farming.

http://www.around.com/patent.html

I love SP, but don't really agree with the way SP went about enforcing thier patents.
But like someone else said "Smart parts is ok by me because I am not in the paintball industry but I'm sure if it did more to me than make a few guns cost more then I'd be mad."

[Curly]

theres always ways around it, make it in china for example....

but why take an american made product and move over there. im sure TK has his own plans about this whole situation

It doesnt matter where the hell you make it. All that matters is where you sell it. You cannot sell an electro-pneumatic marker in the United States without violating a Smart Parts patent. You could make the gun on mars, it wouldnt make a difference.

[Bolter]

I seriously think if they get the hAir trigger going and maybe get a 9v ACE or break beam or whatever, and keep the thing mechanical, it'll floor the competition. Should be marketed as a no frills, lightweight, speed machine. Out of the box and go for it! No set up, fully Pro standard mechanical marker. Im guessing it would be cheaper than a brand new electro? Well whatever. Get Deadlywind to release some custom team bodies, and some lush standard bodies that he is famous for. Plus the hAir trigger
Shartley for some uber wood grips, Heather for panels with anything in them.
Its a reliable, well loved platform and I really do think it would sell (especially if TK gave them to Rogue to put some lush gloss colour on there, and do his Rogue thang ) and they would keep on selling.
I can see that being the way round the SP thing.

[teufelhunden]

Using electronics in the marker is against SP's patents. Therefore, no ACE.

Not to mention, you're um, not going to be able to integrate ACE into a mech marker..

[Scott Hudnall]

Plus...think it through...how is ACE going to integrate with a purely mechanical marker????hmmmmmmmmmmm

[Lohman446]

not true...SP doesn't hold any international patents...thats why they can't sue WDP...but i still don't think it would be worth all the money

As pointed above, you cant import a product that violates patents anyways. And.. umm.. WDP if I recall is being sued by SP - in Washington or Oregon. And WDP is suing SP in Wisconsin - all over alleged patent violations on both sides. Interestingly enough, WDP is also suing stores that sold (distributed) SP products

[Cool fool!]

why cant we all just get along...lets just freakin play! why does there have to be politics in the paintball industry. lets just play!

[Muzikman]

why cant we all just get along...lets just freakin play! why does there have to be politics in the paintball industry. lets just play!

Don't come barking that here. If Smart Parts would do just what you are saying, this would be a non issue.

[Curly]

why cant we all just get along...lets just freakin play! why does there have to be politics in the paintball industry. lets just play!

Keep thinking that. The rest of us live in the real world...

[JimmyBeam]

It doesnt matter where the hell you make it. All that matters is where you sell it. You cannot sell an electro-pneumatic marker in the United States without violating a Smart Parts patent. You could make the gun on mars, it wouldnt make a difference.

um so your saying you cant sell it on the internet? hmm....

[Curly]

um so your saying you cant sell it on the internet? hmm....

Sure, you could sell it, but you couldn't ship it to the united states.

[UltimatePaintballer]

just so you know, the title should read, " A way around SP" not away

[BobTheCow]

Using electronics in the marker is against SP's patents. Therefore, no ACE.

Not to mention, you're um, not going to be able to integrate ACE into a mech marker..

I'm pretty sure it's not that broad... wasn't it, like, using electronics to activate a switch to move a solenoid? Or something of that (more specific) nature? So if I wanted to incorporate, say, an electronic timer into a marker, and nothing else, it wouldn't infringe on SP's "rights."

Or else I'm totally wrong.