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  • TheTramp
    Registered User
    • Jan 2001
    • 4019

    #16
    Originally posted by RRfireblade
    Actually, PTP never really delt in them very much at all. Staubli came to PTP for development of them way back when and when they didn't like what PTP suggested they do for best performance they went on down the road,pretty much.

    So PTP dosen't get their Por-Connects from Staubli? I'm confused but I guess it really doesn't matter because the one I've got on my E-Mag takes any pressure I've put throught it (I accedently put 1100 at one point). I'm not sure about it comming open at HP though because mine is normaly at 850 and it's very difficult to get apart without degassing the gun.
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    • SlartyBartFast
      The Flying Scotsman
      • Jun 2002
      • 2940

      #17
      Originally posted by TheTramp
      takes any pressure I've put throught it (I accedently put 1100 at one point).


      Good GOD! That's exavtly the problem that should scare any sane person when confronted with the average knowledge of and attitude towards safety in paintball.

      So you put 1000+ psi through it. What's it rated for? Sure, it didn't burst. But was it weakened?

      Is it still safe? Or, one day will your disconnect suddenly turn into a high velocity projectile an fracture your jaw or skull?

      Granted the lines are MUCH bigger, but 150 psi trainlines on a locomotive will kill you if the connector comes loose. I've talked to guys who've had to clean up the mess.

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      • TheTramp
        Registered User
        • Jan 2001
        • 4019

        #18
        Well, it does stop the air at the female end so if it did disconect it throreticly wouldn't flop around like a normal quick disconnect.
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        • SlartyBartFast
          The Flying Scotsman
          • Jun 2002
          • 2940

          #19
          Originally posted by TheTramp
          Well, it does stop the air at the female end so if it did disconect it throreticly wouldn't flop around like a normal quick disconnect.
          Until what pressure? My statement stands.

          If it blows apart catastrophically, what's to say the female end will close?

          The manufacturer designs to a working pressure for exactly that reason. They can only guarentee with certainty that the system is fail safe when operating at that maximum pressure.

          Anything higher you're rolling the dice.

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          • TheTramp
            Registered User
            • Jan 2001
            • 4019

            #20
            Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
            Until what pressure? My statement stands.

            If it blows apart catastrophically, what's to say the female end will close?

            The manufacturer designs to a working pressure for exactly that reason. They can only guarentee with certainty that the system is fail safe when operating at that maximum pressure.

            Anything higher you're rolling the dice.
            I guess there's no arguing with that.

            I'll just keep hoping that my roll doesn't come up snake-eyes.
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            -Charlie Papazian

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            • SlartyBartFast
              The Flying Scotsman
              • Jun 2002
              • 2940

              #21
              Originally posted by TheTramp
              I'll just keep hoping that my roll doesn't come up snake-eyes.
              Best of luck.


              But eventually, the house always wins.

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              • gc82000
                LNIB just a few scratches
                • Mar 2004
                • 1346

                #22
                I thought that they sell proconnects at InI sports. could be wrong though, did not realise they were still in use.
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                • RRfireblade

                  • Jun 2002
                  • 5103

                  #23
                  Originally posted by TheTramp
                  So PTP dosen't get their Por-Connects from Staubli? I'm confused but I guess it really doesn't matter because the one I've got on my E-Mag takes any pressure I've put throught it (I accedently put 1100 at one point). I'm not sure about it comming open at HP though because mine is normaly at 850 and it's very difficult to get apart without degassing the gun.
                  Agreed. it really doesn't matter,I'm just stating the ProTeam has never had any connection to Staubli and never distributed thier product.You my be confusing "ProLine" with Proteam who did.
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                  • Tunaman
                    Specialized AGD Tech

                    • Dec 2000
                    • 8643

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RRfireblade
                    Agreed. it really doesn't matter,I'm just stating the ProTeam has never had any connection to Staubli and never distributed thier product.You my be confusing "ProLine" with Proteam who did.
                    Correct. But let me make some differentials between "Proconnects". The ORIGINAL proconnect was about .630" in diameter. It was made for Proline(NPS) by Staubli. There were some internal modifications made to the Staubli product to make it safe for paintball use. The Original proconnects were(are) different from the standard Staubli RBE-03. I have seen Proconnect II's, III's, etc. They are fatter, and dont allow the clearance needed for the mag valve without goffy extra fittings. Get a real one...and dont mess around. Proconnects rock...always did.
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                    • SlartyBartFast
                      The Flying Scotsman
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 2940

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tunaman
                      Proconnects rock...always did.
                      Nice to hear that there are actual differences between the Proconnect and the RBE03. But is there any documented proof? The RBE isn't really rated to paintball pressures.

                      After the other thread on pressure fittings, what I'm looking for now is a good high pressure coupling to go along with the 10,000psi rated compression fittings and hoses from Parker.

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                      • Tunaman
                        Specialized AGD Tech

                        • Dec 2000
                        • 8643

                        #26
                        Its gonna be tough to find 10000 psi fittings in 1/8". Maybe 1/4" if you are lucky.
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                        • SlartyBartFast
                          The Flying Scotsman
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 2940

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Tunaman
                          Its gonna be tough to find 10000 psi fittings in 1/8". Maybe 1/4" if you are lucky.
                          1/4" on page 17 http://www.parker.com/ICD/CAT/ENGLISH/4234.PDF
                          Good to 15,000psi.

                          1/8" on page 14 of http://www.parker.com/icd/cat/english/4233.pdf
                          But that's for fractional tube (1/16 OD). However acording to table 2 that's good for between 5600 and 16900 psi depending on the wall thickness of the tude that is used.

                          1/8" on page 14 of http://www.parker.com/icd/cat/english/4230.pdf
                          Various tube OD possibilities.

                          They've also got flexible hose rated to 10,000psi+ in all sorts of sizes.

                          And, silly me , there's no need what so ever to go to the instrumentation group. Parker steel industrial fittings and swivels are good upto 7,000psi. The brass ones seem to be rated good to 3500 working pressure.
                          Last edited by SlartyBartFast; 07-21-2004, 09:35 AM.

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