Stop This Event!....Please Read

[Pickle]

But they were the same event. We cannot celebrate winning WWII unless we celebrate microwaving the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, unless we celebrate decades of increased cancer rates, unless we celebrate the japanese citizens who were blinded for life when the looked out their window to see what the noise was.

All war is terrible, even if we win. You cannot say one is better then the other.

This thread is officially hijacked.

I can celebrate VJ day knowing that the decision of dropping the bomb saved an estimated One million Japanese soldiers and an estimated 1.5 million american soldiers. I can also celebrate VJ day knowing that we didn't start that conflict. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen because they were cites whose loss the Japanese would take notice of but would not cause the mass casualties of bombing Tokyo. Remember, Emporer Hirohito brought the shooting war to us. We just responded in kind.

And you have picked a bad country (Japan) to represent as the receiver of war time atrocities. But that is another topic. Assuming this thread isn't hijacked further.

[brianlojeck]

This thread is officially hijacked.

THIS THREAD IS GOING TO CUBA! DON'T LOOK AT MY FACE! EVERYBODY DOWN!
(remember when terorrists just wanted a free flight to cuba?)

I can celebrate VJ day knowing that the decision of dropping the bomb saved an estimated One million Japanese soldiers and an estimated 1.5 million american soldiers.

I thought killing soldiers was ok, as long as we left the innocents alone. Isn't that why you are so upset about a 9/11 game as opposed to a dday game?

I can also celebrate VJ day knowing that we didn't start that conflict.

Alquaida believes (the bomb-mules do anyway) that they are responding to American imperialism and hatred. it's all in your point of view sometimes.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen because they were cites whose loss the Japanese would take notice of but would not cause the mass casualties of bombing Tokyo.

maybe they chose the WTC because it would get our attention and cause less casualties then nuking Los Angeles. Is there now an appropriate way to kill civilians, assuming there's a way we could have killed more civilians if we wanted to?

Remember, Emporer Hirohito brought the shooting war to us. We just responded in kind.

True that.

And you have picked a bad country (Japan) to represent as the receiver of war time atrocities.

I'm not a big history buff, but they were the only ones I could think of whom we nuked.

I'll call an end to the hijacking. This will be my last post on the subject, lest cphillip shut down the thread because we keep going around and around with each other...

[cockermongol]

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911
AMERICA UNDER SIEGE

WHO THOUGHT THAT IT COULD GET ANY WORSE AFTER THE BRUTAL ATTACKS THAT OCCURRED TO OUR COUNTRY ON 9/11/01. NOBODY.
NOW THAT TRAGIC DATE IS UPON US ONCE AGAIN, AND THE AL QAEDA FORCES HAVE A NEW PLAN, THE ASSASSINATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THE AL QAEDA FORCES HAVE BEEN PLANNING THIS ATTACK FOR YEARS AND KNOW THAT IT WILL BE ANOTHER SUICIDE MISSION. THEY HAVE GATHERED THEIR TROOPS IN THE CITY OF TAYLOR, MICHIGAN AND WILL DEPLOY THEIR PLAN AT EXACTLY 10:00AM ON 9/11/04 TO COMMEMORATE THE DEVASTATION THEY BROUGHT 3 YEARS AGO.
JOIN THE SECRET SERVICE AT TAYLOR MICHIGAN ON 9/11 TO HELP STOP THESE TERRORISTS FROM KILLING THE PRESIDENT AND KEEP OUR COUNTRY SAFE FROM AL QAEDA ONCE AND FOR ALL.
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I think this sounds like an awesome scenario. I think a lot of you are getting offended because of its reference to September 11th, but I feel this scenario, all in all, is anything but offensive, even PATRIOTIC. I don't feel the deaths of the people on September 11th are being defaced by a mission to defend the President of the United States from terrorists any more than I think the people who died on the battlefields on D-Day are being disrespected by the reenactments of that battle. I was not able to be there to fight on D-Day - I did not have the honor to fight for my country in the most brutal war humankind has ever had. But I CAN pretend that I was, and it increases my patriotism and my feeling of fighting for what I think is right.

So I ask: How does the common man go about "getting back" at the terrorsts. Vote for Bush? (just kidding) Or does an innocent paintball game sound intriguing?

What other game (besides airsoft) can you go out on the field and get some (non-lethal) vengeance on America's enemies, be they the Nazis or the terrorists?

When you look at scenarios like this, you must understand the underlying cause. It's ironic that the very reason the majority of you would not go to such a scenario is why others would.

[Pickle]

Copy that Brian. It was fun sparring with you. Thanks for keeping it civil.

[tyrion2323]

I agree with BrianLoJeck about everything. I don't think that having DDay events is appropriate, nor do I think that WTC games are appropriate. That's why I stay the heck away from scenarios in general (maybe star wars or something...)

When you turn a war/terrorist event/murdering/etc into a game, you're laughing in the faces of everyone who died, German or American, Iraqi or British, whatever. It's disrespectful and disgusting.

[-=Squid=-]

I agree with BrianLoJeck about everything. I don't think that having DDay events is appropriate, nor do I think that WTC games are appropriate. That's why I stay the heck away from scenarios in general (maybe star wars or something...)

When you turn a war/terrorist event/murdering/etc into a game, you're laughing in the faces of everyone who died, German or American, Iraqi or British, whatever. It's disrespectful and disgusting.

Your only laughing at them if your a moron; and if you are a moron and would disrespect something like that, I would assume that you would do the same WITHOUT this scenario game.

Seriously people, stop whining.

[Rather]

A lil off topic but I wonder how people would react to a Waco Tx secnario.... I don't think I'd wanna be on the Branch Davidians side at the end though......

[tyrion2323]

Your only laughing at them if your a moron; and if you are a moron and would disrespect something like that, I would assume that you would do the same WITHOUT this scenario game.

Seriously people, stop whining.

Spoken like someone who's never had to actually participate in war...

[paint magnet]

Regardless of your opinion on the subject, anyone else wondering who the hell would actually play on the terrorist side?

[skife]

And nowhere on the site was there any specific bolded mention of...
"This game is in rememberance of those who died due to the Terrorist Attacks"
"This game is to pay for the WTC organization funding"
Or anything like that, nothing. They've now deleted it from their website, but their original promotional message was

at least they arn't trying to BS you.
why not let some average person make money off the war, All the news stations are.

[-=Squid=-]

Spoken like someone who's never had to actually participate in war...

Fwoosh.

Thats the sound of the point going right over your head.

[MagAl]

I agree with BrianLoJeck about everything. I don't think that having DDay events is appropriate, nor do I think that WTC games are appropriate. That's why I stay the heck away from scenarios in general (maybe star wars or something...)

When you turn a war/terrorist event/murdering/etc into a game, you're laughing in the faces of everyone who died, German or American, Iraqi or British, whatever. It's disrespectful and disgusting.

So your saying by playing a FPS game based on WW2 is the same as standing over the graves of those that lost there lives fighting for what there country told them to and spitting on them?

[Won Hunglo]

The thought of doing a knee slide down a freshly waxed school hallway while eliminating the jocks & teachers with my trigger bouncing A4 Fly has been a dream of mine. Where can I sign up?

[Won Hunglo]

The Waco Tx senario sounds cool. We can have a BBQ at the end.

[Evil1]

I think that this type of thing is exactly what paintball in general does NOT need. I think this whole thing may leave a bad taste in alot of people's mouths. Some may even be some people of authority who can actually make things harder for all of us players. I know a few families who actually lost relatives in the 9/11 tragedy and on top of that my late buddy's (R.I.P. J.S.) girlfriend actually lost her mother in who worked in the WTC. I don't think she would be real happy to know that there are paintball games to relive the whole thing or whatever they are doing. I live about 50 miles north of NYC and I was pretty nervous for weeks about the whole thing and I just think it is in extremely bad taste to let this whole thing happen.