why was production of the z frame stopped so soon

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  • wombo102
    Registered User
    • May 2004
    • 443

    #1

    why was production of the z frame stopped so soon

    like why was it stopped. like what was wrong with it. every one that has one says they are awsome so why did agd only make like 400 of em. it makes no sence man.
  • FooTemps
    HURRRR
    • Sep 2001
    • 6702

    #2
    Everyone hated them and said they were ugly, would never work, and would never be popular.

    Everyone = hype kids that follow what's popular in paintball

    Do you notice that agd has started major innovations but never get credit?

    Force feed = warp
    HPA = agd proposed
    Egronomic grips = z-grip
    electro/manual = e-mag
    magnet trigger = e-mag

    I'm not 100% sure on all of those but I think i'm right that AGD was the first at those types of things.

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    • Blazestorm
      I win
      • Feb 2002
      • 3523

      #3
      But remember Foo!

      Mags are Heavy... Chop... and very inaccurate! I mean geeze they're mags man!
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      • punkncat
        One foot less
        • Feb 2003
        • 5841

        #4
        Originally posted by Blazestorm
        But remember Foo!

        Mags are Heavy... Chop... and very inaccurate! I mean geeze they're mags man!

        Yes , and don't forget that cockers shoot farther.

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        • FooTemps
          HURRRR
          • Sep 2001
          • 6702

          #5
          and don't forget that because a gun has software capped at 26bps, you've ripped it to 26bps a couple times since it skipped a shot!

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          • _tMAN
            Wisconsin
            • Jun 2004
            • 789

            #6
            umm you forgot one thing, mags are ugly and noob guns...
            jeeze, you guys don't know anything
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            • AGD
              The man from AGD

              • Oct 2000
              • 5916

              #7
              If I remember right the exact words were "those grips are GAY!!" Yes we did intro HPA, magnetic triggers and everything else in that list. Paintball is a tough crowd...

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              • _tMAN
                Wisconsin
                • Jun 2004
                • 789

                #8
                Man was that AGD guy Gay!
                He acts like he's the owner of Airguns Design or something



                just kidding Tom, you have many followers that hate hype!



                PS. How did the idea of using compressed air come to you anyway? i've always wondered that
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                • AGD
                  The man from AGD

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5916

                  #9
                  If you know anything about how these gasses work using CO2 the way we were was just stupid. To consume gas fast you have to use one that is compressible.

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                  • _tMAN
                    Wisconsin
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 789

                    #10
                    Ah, I forgot Tom is the master at anything (physics, ... all i can think off right now,...)
                    EDIT: Archeology... paintball?

                    but thanks for the reply. I can now die happy, or wait, I need a Red to black fade X-Mag, then I can die happy
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                    • slade
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 3442

                      #11
                      Originally posted by _tMAN
                      I can now die happy, or wait, I need a Red to black fade X-Mag, then I can die happy
                      wow, same here... want to help us out tom? you dont want us to do you?
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                      • Lurker27
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 287

                        #12
                        Tom: Or we're using liquid Co2 the wrong way....I would have liked to seem more MegaZ style siphon guns.

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                        • Scott Hudnall
                          "I am my kids Dad"
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 598

                          #13
                          Didn't AGD invent the "power feed" also????
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                          • Blazestorm
                            I win
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 3523

                            #14
                            Believe so, that was designed to allow gas to escape if there was blow-back, so when the balls were fed they wouldn't shoot back up the stack. Or something like that

                            The sad part is, Tom has patented like... 2 of these things out of 100's. Tom is too nice!

                            Back when they had the Tracker-Cam I was on at like 4-am and he was busy working on the computer, he wrote a sticky note that said Hi!!, I was like

                            *pets mag* This has been the best gun I have owned... my favorite part is when I walk over to the chrono, fire 3 shots, then rip 20bps (with bounce ofcourse ) at the target and walk away, where-as everyone else is busy fildeling with their guns. My only gripe is I can't get the LVL-10 to work efficiently with anything bigger then the smallest spring. And that my stock-RT Rail came scratched from the factory (No biggie, I already grabbed a RogueRail)

                            Paintball wouldn't be the same without Tom... and his gripes about the imperfect O-rings.
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                            • Linkwarner
                              Spartans
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 337

                              #15
                              "Mags just weigh too much,"
                              "Man is that mag like 10 pounds,"
                              "My gun is like so much ligher"

                              My cocker could beat your gun because it is so reliab...(hose shoots off of the three way) Why didnt you finish that sentence BOY!

                              oh if you didnt know I am a mag man

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