Side plates for rt/emag rails

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  • OysterBoy
    Fatty McChubbercookie
    • Feb 2004
    • 1409

    #16
    They save money, but Im sure AGD takes a hit. Tac bodys cant be cheap to manufacture, so we have to also take into consideration that if anyone should come out with these it should be AGD. Or, maybe I'm just talking out of my arse.

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    • Severe
      Leader of Lililputions
      • Feb 2002
      • 315

      #17
      I'm personally of the opinion if AGD doesn't want to produce them, per Rogue's comment, then any enterprising person who takes the time and effort to make them should do so and enjoy whatever sales might arise from that.

      If it wasn't for the after-marker options that mags currently have, I doubt very seriously they would be as popular as they are becoming.

      Given the option of these type of rails over the Tac-One body, I'd take the rails. That's just me.
      Lvl X TKO Automag PF/HL, Intelliframe, a Simmons 30mm Red Dot and a J&J 12" Ceramic barrel.
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      • G3PB
        Registered User
        • Jun 2004
        • 91

        #18
        If you don't care for the Tac Rails, why not just get a Slug Rail and mill it however you want it?

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        • tony3
          LOOKING FOR AN ASIAN GF!!!
          • Feb 2003
          • 3740

          #19
          Rogue you should make the side plates similar maybe to the sideplates on timmys, but I guess just flat solid ones would add a nice contrast to a gun.

          Black ule body
          Red xvalve
          Red side plates
          Black Rogue 90* frame
          Red annod panels
          Black 15* asa
          Red Regular length Cp foregrip

          That would be awesome.

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          • Bulldog
            Registered User
            • Jun 2001
            • 1374

            #20
            Originally posted by Severe
            I'm personally of the opinion if AGD doesn't want to produce them, per Rogue's comment, then any enterprising person who takes the time and effort to make them should do so and enjoy whatever sales might arise from that.
            And if they don't sell because production costs are too high?

            I don't think that it's not that this can't be done, I'm thinking it's just expensive, plus AO can be finicky too.

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            • ShaftyMcGee
              SHAZBOT
              • Feb 2003
              • 380

              #21
              how about a plate that you can mount a Q-loader to easily? also would it be possible to put plates on wingless rails or are the holes shaved down to much?
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              • Severe
                Leader of Lililputions
                • Feb 2002
                • 315

                #22
                Originally posted by Bulldog
                And if they don't sell because production costs are too high?

                I don't think that it's not that this can't be done, I'm thinking it's just expensive, plus AO can be finicky too.
                Yeah, I don't know what the production cost would be. That's why I mentioned to Rogue since he would be more in the know, so to speak.

                Frankly, I don't think it would be difficult to do. When I envision this, I'm not talking about the rails, just the mount. So it would be a "U" shaped mount with the three screw holes per sides and several mounting holes on it. Thing, there are some many rail types from airsoft that could be used, there's no reason to re-invent the wheel. And this would allow for a VERY high degree of customization. Look at OpsGear at all the various rails they have for the A5 for a general idea, or even RedWolfAirSoft.

                This isn't anything that someone would have to worry about making athestically pleasing, you'd just want form/function and durability.

                The front screw holes could support a similar mount for above/below rails. Heck, you could mount the fore-grip on the rail if you wanted.

                The beauty of something like this is it would work with ANY body type, powerfeed, verticle or warp. If that doesn't create appeal, then I'm not sure what would.
                Last edited by Severe; 07-22-2004, 11:49 AM.
                Lvl X TKO Automag PF/HL, Intelliframe, a Simmons 30mm Red Dot and a J&J 12" Ceramic barrel.
                Crossfire 68/4500
                -------------------------------------
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                • Carbon
                  Word!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1589

                  #23
                  Rogue, maybe you should do a early mockup of the side plates? And run a poll to see the how hot this thing can get before pre-orders can be sent. Anyway here is another idea for a set of wraparound plates ala Timmy ripoff.




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                  • RoadDawg
                    Degeneration X is back
                    • May 2001
                    • 4023

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Raven001
                    Why not just remove the damn holes in the first place since they appear to serve no usefull purpose?

                    P.S. is your sig from Lone Wolf & Cub?
                    Wrong. They do have a purpose. They are to mount the Emag/RTP site rail and foregrip plates. After all they are RTP/Emag Rails in the beginning. Plus the holes go deeper then most people think.

                    Also the sear axle part has to be taken into consideration. If you whack that off you'll need a shorter sear axle and what not.
                    Sorry, I'm old

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                    • TheFlamingKoosh
                      I'm No Longer On Fire
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 1710

                      #25
                      Yeah, I agree with some of the other guys...

                      AGD and Rogue Rails would look 100X better if they didn't have the "speed holes" in them.

                      Sure they hold up the sight rail (which barely anybody uses) and the foregrip, which is ok for AGD guns, but for the custom market like Nicad and Rogue it just seems off... It should at least be an option for "no speed holes" from the factory...
                      Hey Zero, how much did that Chipley cost ya?

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                      • Carbon
                        Word!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1589

                        #26
                        well i suppose you cal leave a hole for the axle pin on the face plate and diguise it as an inteded design feature.

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                        Emag 4.0 "I love the way you turn me on"

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                        • richie
                          MAKE A JOYFUL NOISE (HIT!)
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 357

                          #27
                          ones I made

                          I had a friend mill my rail and I kept thinking what could be done to cover the holes.Paint gets in there and makes a mess.So, I made a simple set for mine.i wish I could get some made of carbon fiber and a smaller set of countersunk screws.I used grip screws off an intelliframe.They work though but I would like to reshape the ends,maybe a slash forward or something.A picatinny rail would be sweet! I would like to see what someone else comes up with though.
                          Last edited by richie; 07-24-2004, 11:53 AM.
                          TAC-ONE Camomag,Retro Valve w/LVL-10,milled RT-Pro rail,E-mag battery pack,KAPP stubby dropzone,CP on/off, 16" Stiffi and it's bewy,bewy qwiet



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                          • JadedT
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 1018

                            #28
                            RogueFactor: bought quite a few items off you and I KNOW I would buy these plates from you. $20 a pop sounds great for a picatinny rail that uses 6-32 screws...

                            You might offer three versions:
                            • version for people to tap their AM/MM rails
                            • version for older RTP/ Emag winged rails
                            • version for new wingless rails


                            But obviously feel out the crowd for the most prevalent rail/ interest. I would buy either of the first to versions.

                            J.
                            team PAIN "it's not fun and games until somebody gets hurt."
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                            • SniperSmurf
                              Now I have a machine gun..
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 502

                              #29
                              I simply filled in the screw holes on one of my RT-Pro rails with Bondo. After some light sanding and black paint, you can't even tell they were there. I'm thinkin' about doing the same thing to my new RT-Pro as well, since I never use the sight rail or foregrip, but would like a less permanent solution. This seems like a good idea!

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                              • Evil Bob
                                Evil Overlord
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 1217

                                #30
                                Rogue:

                                Use the basic design of the existing sight rail on the E-mag and modify it into a three sided weaver mounting system. That way, regardless of how the mag is being fed (top, warp left, warp right) there will be two useable mounting locations.

                                -Evil Bob

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