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  • gorymonkey2
    The Big Kahuna
    • Apr 2004
    • 122

    #1

    titanium or alluminum

    should i buy the titadium cocking rod for my karni or should i just stick with the alluminum one that comes on it
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  • Carbon
    Word!
    • Jan 2003
    • 1589

    #2
    howbout you just give me $30 and you keep the aluminu rod?

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    • Fanatic
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      • Dec 2001
      • 488

      #3
      lol...ditto
      if it works the same way...why bother

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      • WenULiVeUdiE
        Force of Nature Staff
        • Jan 2004
        • 1982

        #4
        Withthe titanium you will be able to lower your cocking pressure a tiny bit and pinch balls better. But since you have eyes on it, a new one is not needed. And karni's dont have cocking rods. Your thinking about the pump arm.
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        • gtrsi
          Automag?
          • Dec 2001
          • 5786

          #5
          Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
          Withthe titanium you will be able to lower your cocking pressure a tiny bit and pinch balls better. .

          wtf are you talking about? there are difference in materials not in design.
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          • trains are bad
            Registered User
            • Oct 2003
            • 1751

            #6
            Ti is heavier than Al. It has a higher modulus of elasticity but I doubt that would help you bounce off paint at all, so unless you have a problem bending them, stick to Al. It will reduce the reciprocating mass=higher cycle speed. And you already have it.
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            • WenULiVeUdiE
              Force of Nature Staff
              • Jan 2004
              • 1982

              #7
              Originally posted by gtrsi
              wtf are you talking about? there are difference in materials not in design.
              I thought titnium was lighter than aluminum. If it was true than he could turn down his lpr a tiny bit and his ability to pinch a ball would be greater. But, since aluminum is lighter, that is not true. If the tit. arm was strait, while the alum. was bent like most, than the tit. would be better. It;s easier to push a strait rod than a bent one.
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              • FallNAngel
                Registered User
                • Apr 2003
                • 1076

                #8
                No... titantium of the same size as aluminum is actually heavier. It's also stronger, which means you can mill it smaller (lighter), but still keep the same strength as aluminum. Honestly, you're not going to see any difference with the cocking rod. If you really want to pinch, your best bet is to mess around with the valve and mainspring.
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                • gorymonkey2
                  The Big Kahuna
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 122

                  #9
                  dangit!!! in my first post i put the wrong thing, i didn't mean cocking rod, i meant pump rod, the karni already has a titanium cocking rod.
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                  • FallNAngel
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 1076

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gorymonkey2
                    dangit!!! in my first post i put the wrong thing, i didn't mean cocking rod, i meant pump rod, the karni already has a titanium cocking rod.

                    same here... I meant pump arm too... I distinctly remember typing that last response and picturing a pump arm (yes, I own and have worked on several Cockers). A titanium pump arm won't do much either.
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                    • WenULiVeUdiE
                      Force of Nature Staff
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1982

                      #11
                      Karni's dont have cocking rod. They use the IVG or w/e it's called. Well it doesnt have the traditional cocking rod.
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                      • LeatherPants
                        Bunkers fear me!
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1098

                        #12
                        I have a Ti pump arm on my E Orracle. Honestly if I were you I'd stick with the AL one. The reason I went Ti is that it's lighter that the SS one but still as strong. I realized later I don't need the pump are to be that strong. The AL is the lightest arms you are going to find.

                        Someone was going to make hollow tubular TI arms that would have been lighter and stronger than AL but that fell through.

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                        • 50 cal
                          The evil voices win today
                          • Nov 2000
                          • 960

                          #13
                          Ti instead of Al is a solution in search of a problem. Just another way to seperate you from your $$$. Don't bother. You won't see a bit of difference.

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                          • sneakyhacker420
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1247

                            #14
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                            • FallNAngel
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 1076

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
                              also, SS is a stronger metal than Aluminum or Titanium, which will definitely help with the speeds that you'll achieve with an e-blade, which over time with an aluminum rod, would cause the pump arm to warp or bend
                              Wnd I believe SS is also heavier than aluminum as well. Not sure how it compares to Titanium though. The only reason you'd need a pump arm is if the current one you have breaks... I don't think you'll be firing that fast for it to snap.
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