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  • Albinonewt
    Team Icky Forest
    • Apr 2003
    • 2456
    #16
    The PBX cocker is impressive, so give it some serious thought...
    Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - Tyger

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      • Thordic
        AFTICA
        • May 2001
        • 5986
        #17
        I won't argue with the other points, but there is no way a cocker can have less kick than "any other marker on the market". Cockers and timmys and such will always have recipricating mass. Even if the Q-Valve doesn't need a hammer somehow, you still need a bolt and a backblock.

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          • PissedGodzilla
            Killswitch Engaged....
            • Jul 2003
            • 618
            #18
            Originally posted by Thordic
            I won't argue with the other points, but there is no way a cocker can have less kick than "any other marker on the market". Cockers and timmys and such will always have recipricating mass. Even if the Q-Valve doesn't need a hammer somehow, you still need a bolt and a backblock.

            nope

            there is no "backblock" and yes it does 33bps WITH PAINT....

            I have balanced the thing on my finger, shot it, and it didn't rock back at forth at all.... NO KICK thordic, i kid you not....

            I have had the pleasure of railing on the prototype... GET READY FOR THE FUTURE..


            PBX cocker, all the way

            it will destroy the DM4


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              • Dayspring
                aka- The Day Wang

                • May 2001
                • 9664
                #19
                A full version of the shuttle bodied PBX cocker will have less reciprocating mass than a turtle cocker.

                There's no hammer, lug, or spring assembly with the new Q valve. The gun becomes a full electro-pneumatic. The "back block" is a small piece of delrin and the bolt is smaller than any cocker bolt on the market.



                Originally posted by Thordic
                I won't argue with the other points, but there is no way a cocker can have less kick than "any other marker on the market". Cockers and timmys and such will always have recipricating mass. Even if the Q-Valve doesn't need a hammer somehow, you still need a bolt and a backblock.

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                  • lord1234
                    College Boy Spydarm
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 1558
                    #20
                    the bolt in the pbx is a timmy bolt.
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                      • Dayspring
                        aka- The Day Wang

                        • May 2001
                        • 9664
                        #21
                        Actually not it's not. It was custom made by our engineers.

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                          • Dayspring
                            aka- The Day Wang

                            • May 2001
                            • 9664
                            #22
                            We've removed/reduced all that moving mass, thus opening up the ROF ceiling.

                            Originally posted by Enemy
                            how come i recall a fluent tech from wgp showing of the first worrblade stating that the gun mechanically cant handle more than like 15-16 cps cuz of the moving mass!!!! its in a warpig vid of some tourney a year or so ago in the middle tech section..hey first time i saw a lvl 10 in action gotta love the tounge test!!!

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                              • gorymonkey2
                                The Big Kahuna
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 122
                                #23
                                thanks dayspring and pissedgodzilla, for explaining all that i could not.
                                :cry: I had a paintball gun and i knew how to use it :cry:

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                                  • WenULiVeUdiE
                                    Force of Nature Staff
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 1982
                                    #24
                                    Wow, that looks amazing. Any chance we'll be able to see it at the AO day on the 7th?
                                    Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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                                      • Dayspring
                                        aka- The Day Wang

                                        • May 2001
                                        • 9664
                                        #25
                                        I'd say that your chances are better than average.

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