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  • ScatterPlot
    Not pop, it's all Coke
    • Jan 2002
    • 1960

    #1

    Question about detents

    I was wondering how the placement of the detents mattered. I noticed that nubbins are placed at a 90* angle from where the ball feeds. I was curious as to where they could possibly be placed. Thanks
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  • bertmcmahan
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    • Jan 2002
    • 1960

    #2
    Anyone?
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    • Automaggot68

      #3
      The detents on what? A mag ULE body? The old style twist lock barrels? an Angel? What marker?

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      • Adrenaline_Junkie

        #4
        Yeah, your question is kinda.....not that great man. Please reword the question so we know what you mean.

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        • DiSoRdeR
          Pump enthusiast
          • Jul 2003
          • 1767

          #5
          Not to sound like a noob, but what is a detent?

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          • i_baked_cookies
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            • Jan 2003
            • 1360

            #6
            the little "thing" that protrudes a little into your chamber (or the barrel of the old twistlock mags) that prevents your ball from just falling/rolling out of the chamber. also prevents double feeding.

            to answer the origional question, i dont think it matters. most guns have it on the bottom, but the mag ule body has it on the side, while some other bodies have two on either side.
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            • DiSoRdeR
              Pump enthusiast
              • Jul 2003
              • 1767

              #7
              Originally posted by i_baked_cookies
              prevents your ball from just falling/rolling out of the chamber. also prevents double feeding.
              Thought so, thanks for the confirmation.

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              • Glickman
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                • Sep 2003
                • 2673

                #8
                ill try to answer the best i can, but youll get a better one if u reword it, as others already stated:

                with the detent, if its facing down, it will cause problems with the ball feeding all the way, as the same will happen with it facing slightly up (im speaking of like 45 degree angles)

                also, the less width, the more flexable it it, so the tip is more flexable then as u go up (which is what u would hit if on an angle) so, the tip will allow the ball to feed better and be propelled.

                tell me if theres anything i need to clarify, i tend to be thinking as im explaining it to myself.. or so im told

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                • bertmcmahan
                  Not pop, it's all Coke
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 1960

                  #9
                  Sorry bout the original question, I'm working on a new feed thingy for my mag (but it won't be the same as a mag, so don't think specifically mag-like) and don't wanna release it till it's finished, so I'm not very clear. Plus I just plain misworded it, so here goes again.
                  If I was to simply have a tube to feed into (i.e., a barrel and chamber), where should I put the detent? Should it be at a 90* angle to where the ball enters, like the nubbins on a mag barrel, or could it be something like a detent placed on the bottom of a chamber in a vert feed style marker (as in inline with the path of the incoming ball)? Or does it matter at all? If I'm being unclear, LMK I'll try to say it better. It's kinda late
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                  • bertmcmahan
                    Not pop, it's all Coke
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 1960

                    #10
                    OK I just thought of a way to illustrate this. Imagine a clock being a cross section of a chamber/barrel part of a gun. To make it simple, say the ball is feeding in from 12:00, as in vert feed guns. In a side feed, it would be at like 1:30-2:00 range. Get it? Anyway, say it's feeding at 12 in a vert feed gun. Obviously the detents need to be foreward some from where the ball enters, to let it get seated in all right, but for the sake of my question I'm not gonna worry about. All I'm concerned with is the angle at which the detent is compared to the feeding port. So...
                    The ball feeds in at 12. Some guns with dual detents have the detents at 3 and 9. Mag barrels in center feed setups (with a standard barrel) have the detent at 9. Is it OK to put a detent at 6? I cant really remember off the top of my head where the ULE warp body puts its detent, if it's at 12 or 3 (since the feed's coming from 9) I know the standard ULE is at 9. So, after all that, is it OK to put a detent at the 6:00 position from a feeding at 12?
                    Hopefully that is clear enough, it is to me, but then again I wrote it. Thanks again
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                    • G3PB
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 91

                      #11
                      Ok, to actually answer your question. On a ball style detent like a slug body, Cocker body, whatever, you can figure the center of the detent is approx 3/16" forward of the centerline of the ball. The object, of course, is that the outer radius of the ball contacts, or there abouts, the outer radius of the detent. Too far back, if the two contact, the ball will have to compress the detent, not good. Also, if too far forward, the ball can roll slightly forward. If exaggerated, too much, the ball stack could push the ball past the detent and cause double feed.

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                      • Torbo
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                        • Apr 2003
                        • 1737

                        #12
                        put two in, one on each side of the body. This appears to be the best way to go.
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                        • bertmcmahan
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                          • Jan 2002
                          • 1960

                          #13
                          2 would be good, however I only have room for the one in my current design. Is it OK to put a detent at the 6 position from a warped feed coming from the 12 position, or could that put too much stress on the detent?
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