AKA 2 liter "mystrey reg" available

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  • Automaggin2
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 2506

    #16
    Originally posted by $tevo
    is it really worth $100? pretty steep when you can get a CP reg that has awesome recharge rate and eliminates kick for almost half that

    How does a reg eliminate kick?


    The AKA 2 liter is one of the best regs. It beat the CP reg in recharge rate.
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    • $tevo
      Steve
      • Apr 2002
      • 881

      #17
      i have never tried a different reg then the torpedo on my timmy. i was told by numorous people that the cp reg and the right dwell setting will eliminate kick. and i know the cp has an awesome recharge rate, i was playin against pro killers last weekend, the guy had the same gun as me except for color and his lpr. he was using a CP reg. i was talkin to ppl about the 2 liter and cp regs. they all said that cp would eliminate kick and has a very good recharge rate. they said the 2liter will deff be better but i figure it cant be that much better

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      • wyn1370
        ...--...
        • Feb 2001
        • 3821

        #18
        Originally posted by Riot[Z-Grip]
        This tide you over until someone can do that? --> http://www.akalmp.com/TechDocs/2-liter.pdf

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        • Dayspring
          aka- The Day Wang

          • May 2001
          • 9664

          #19
          Buddy was full of caca...

          Originally posted by $tevo
          i have never tried a different reg then the torpedo on my timmy. i was told by numorous people that the cp reg and the right dwell setting will eliminate kick. and i know the cp has an awesome recharge rate, i was playin against pro killers last weekend, the guy had the same gun as me except for color and his lpr. he was using a CP reg. i was talkin to ppl about the 2 liter and cp regs. they all said that cp would eliminate kick and has a very good recharge rate. they said the 2liter will deff be better but i figure it cant be that much better

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          • Digits
            Canuckle
            • Feb 2003
            • 1329

            #20
            Torpedos are like 3rd crapiest for recharge on that diagram, and i've never had a problem with mine on my timmy, or on my NYX when I had it.. And my timmy has very good consistancy..

            Regs are overated IMO.. I've havn't noticed a difference between my brothers sidewinder and my torpedo.. It's all just hype.. Plus who needs a recharge rate past like 25bps max anywayes?

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            • magman007
              I <3 my Penis
              • Jun 2001
              • 7579

              #21
              if you had all gone to IAO and went to toms tech class... you would have realized that a hammer/valve setup, is its own regulator..... there fore, the inline, doesnt make that much of a difference, only in how it supplies the reg being the hammer/valve combo. Only markers where inlines are needed, is on spool valved markers, such as the matrix and shocker, because that air is the air that travels to the dump chamber....


              ever notice how you can adjust the velocity from the back of a cocker? or even a spyder? same difference



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              • Lurker27
                Registered User
                • Jun 2004
                • 287

                #22
                You're talking aobut consistency, where you're right, however, the valve/hammer doesn't gte rid of upstream flow limitations that hurt recharge rate.

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                • punkncat
                  One foot less
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 5841

                  #23
                  Originally posted by gtrsi
                  In all honesty, if you have a good LPR it would be dam hard to tell if your inline made any difference, unless it was so high it caused damage to the LPR itself. I would be hard pressed to buy a nice inline (100+) if I had a decent LPR, however co2 use is a different story.


                  Does it really matter? There are so many guns out now that get 20+bps that regs that recharge this fast would only be an advtange to RT styled guns, high input high flow, on the tank and not as an inline reg.
                  The LPR only controls the solenoid and ram in electros , or the recock on a cocker. Input pressure on an LPR can be anything , its just what it puts out that matters to the 'noid.
                  The HPR regs down tank pressure to operating pressure , the LPR knocks that down again to noid and ram pressure.

                  The HPR will definately be noticable if it is inconsistant because it actually feeds your valve and therefore your shot speed will vary.

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                  • punkncat
                    One foot less
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 5841

                    #24
                    Originally posted by magman007
                    if you had all gone to IAO and went to toms tech class... you would have realized that a hammer/valve setup, is its own regulator..... there fore, the inline, doesnt make that much of a difference, only in how it supplies the reg being the hammer/valve combo. Only markers where inlines are needed, is on spool valved markers, such as the matrix and shocker, because that air is the air that travels to the dump chamber....


                    ever notice how you can adjust the velocity from the back of a cocker? or even a spyder? same difference

                    I have to touch on this too.A hammer and valve are not their own regulator.

                    The hammer is designed to strike the valve pin and open it for a certain amount of time (dwell) to allow air/co2 to get the ball up to velocity. According to the input pressure the rear spring must be harder in relation to the opposing force of the valve spring and pressure to achieve the dwell needed to give proper velocity. The harder the spring and the heavier the hammer the higher the kick.

                    Now when operating off CO2 the input pressure varies according to the temp of the gas. An inline reg helps by making the gas be a more consistant pressure and therefore more consistant results from the marker. W/o a reg you see fluctuation as the temp changes because the hammer hits with the same force every time against a changing resistance therefore affecting dwell and velocity follows.

                    When operating on HPA your pressure is always consistant due to the regulated output on the tank. However most (better) markers operate on a lowered pressure so a reg is needed. The reg brings the pressure down so that milder springs or ram pressures can be used to achieve the dwell needed to gain velocity. Resulting in less kick and lowered noise levels and other questionable benefits.

                    Not all markers need regs , especially blowbacks and the like , but any marker will benifit from a more consistant air pressure. The valve and hammer have nothing to do with consistant air pressure.

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