AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Are you sure about that? My Viking gets a full case off of a 70/45, I find it hard to believe it can get better, not saying you're wrong, just hard to believe. Also, my Viking can rip like crazy with no bounce. I have the WAS switch and when I turn up my db filter for no bounce it is still very easy to shoot very fast. Plus, like someone said earlier you can get rid of a lot of kick with the Mitey Max. They are very consistant stock, the lpr is great(if it's 04 it comes with scm) and the HPR is awesome too, it's the Sidewinder. Anyway, I love my Viking and would only trade it for another Viking or an Excalibur. The maintenence is almost zero, put a few drops of oil in the asa and on the bolt and cycle the marker, that's it. I'd say since you can't shoot all three to study up on all three as much as you can. All three guns are great, but my personal preference is the Viking(although I've never shot a Cyborg, so that is between the Trix and Viking), it's fast, consistant, efficient, and tough.
'Borgs can rock a case + on a 68/45 with a 45 cool fill.
How is the kick on the cyborg? Anywhere near the almost kickless Matrix? I'm considering a 'borg for my next marker, I think their price is a huge plus too.
How is the kick on the cyborg? Anywhere near the almost kickless Matrix? I'm considering a 'borg for my next marker, I think their price is a huge plus too.
Yep. The action is a bit different, you can tell it's not a spool valve, but there's really no kick to it at all. Very nice. If I had to go with something other than my Cyborg, I'd take either a Matrix or a Freestyle
Well I do not think you could go wrong with any of your choices. I currently have all three and I am leaning towards my matrix for only one reason(price) You can get a used trix for around 650 and that is cheap. A decent Vike will run you 850- 1150 and a Cyborg will run you around 1000 and does not need any ups. I like shooting my cyborg the most though. A full case of a 68 4500 at 275 FPS around 1700 balls if I crank it up to 300 but I love the sleek design. I personally will keep all three but shoot the trix in tourneys since we are going with dye markers since I am a dealer and they really are a very nice marker. I would not believe in the hype too much about vikings going up in value. I think they have reached their peak. You can only maintain interest if the company keeps producing a superior product to peak peoples interests. No more vikes will be made as of now so there is some last minute gotta haves that will die down. As for cyborgs I would guess they will come down a little once their buzz where off. They are somewhat rare marker so that drives the price.
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You can get a used trix for around 650 and that is cheap. A decent Vike will run you 850- 1150
I think my Viking is pretty "decent". 2003 full milled red with WAS, WAS switch, WAS eyes, MM, no rider clamping feedneck, JMJ eye covers, and DYE stickies for $750. The only other upgrades I can get are an SCM, 2 Liter, and aftermarket trigger. For $1150 you can get a super tricked Viking.
edit: Just fyi, the full case I get off my 70/45 is at 300fps.
what would you say is the biggest mechanical/electrical drawback for each of these products? (that means "the price is unfair!!!" doesnt count). thanks.
well, I don't own any of the three but have a lot of experience with each. So I'm not biased. I would have to say imo that the viking would be the best choice. The trixes need more maintenence than the viks. The cyborgs that I've shot I liked but the two my friends have are constantly breaking. Maybbe they're just unlucky but I don't like them.
I don't like cyborgs just because of the feel of them. They shoot nice, fast, accuracte, consistent, but I just don't like how they feel in my hands. It seemed way heavier then it was just because of the bad balance of it.
Never shot a viking.
I love matrices, no kick at all, no movement in the gun at all. Feels like you aren't even shooting. Some people don't like this, but I sure do. I'd definitely get a matrix.
what would you say is the biggest mechanical/electrical drawback for each of these products? (that means "the price is unfair!!!" doesnt count). thanks.
I'll just give the one and only drawback of the Viking, since I own one, the weight. It only weighs 3 pounds so if you really have a problem with it's weight than you need to address some other issues, it's not really an issue, just the only thing I could think of that can be improved. I won't give any on a trix or a cyborg since I don't own one. I'll let those who own one list drawbacks since they have more experience with the markers. I played today and had not one chop or brake, got a full case off my 70/45 with a little to spare, and didn't have a single problem with it. Oh, and that was playing while it rained on and off all day. I love my Viking.
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