viking and excal, whats the difference?

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  • BlackWeenie
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 525

    #1

    viking and excal, whats the difference?

    ok whats the difference? i realize that there is performance differences so what are both guns/markers capped at for BPS?? any differences that you can point out are appreciated. thanks.
  • Ov3rmind
    Speechless
    • Nov 2001
    • 2637

    #2
    The Excal is closed bolt, the Viking is open bolt. Consequently, the Excal has a slightly smoother shot with less kick. The Viking can cycle faster, but I doubt you'd notice too much of a difference.
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    • Steelrat
      I meant to...uh, nevermind
      • May 2003
      • 5375

      #3
      What Overmind said. The excal has internals that move in opposite directions, essentially cancelling out the recoil. I've owned both, and while the viking seems a bit faster, I prefer the excals. Its also easier for me to lay a long string with the excal, not sure why.


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      • TheFlamingKoosh
        I'm No Longer On Fire
        • Mar 2002
        • 1710

        #4
        Might as well ask it now...

        How do Excal's work?

        It it just like the viking, then with another solenoid just to control the bolt, or more of an update on the Old School shocker style only "better"? Or am I WAY off....
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        • WARPED1
          I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
          • Nov 2001
          • 7458

          #5
          Maybe it's been said, I didn't read the whole thread. The Excal is closed bolt while the Viking is open bolt.
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          • xen_100
            super-uber spyder tech
            • Oct 2002
            • 1203

            #6
            Originally posted by TheFlamingKoosh
            Might as well ask it now...

            How do Excal's work?

            It it just like the viking, then with another solenoid just to control the bolt, or more of an update on the Old School shocker style only "better"? Or am I WAY off....

            that is essentially it..............it has two noids that independantly control the bolt and hammer seperately...............and as you mentioned, alot better than that old school shocker.....(stock anyway)

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            • Cryer
              Paintball is over.
              • Nov 2002
              • 4105

              #7
              Originally posted by BlackWeenie
              ok whats the difference?

              about $500-$600 and a load of hype.

              Of the 2, get the viking. Theres not enough performance difference (if any at all) to warrant spending that much more.

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              • xen_100
                super-uber spyder tech
                • Oct 2002
                • 1203

                #8
                Originally posted by Cryer
                about $500-$600 and a load of hype.

                Of the 2, get the viking. Theres not enough performance difference (if any at all) to warrant spending that much more.

                very true............and the viking is alot faster.

                "super multi-green mag" Cp barrels, LX bolt, no-rise, intelli, 47ci flatline, halo................
                Red dragun body, turbo valve, 12" Boomstick, Spud magics anti-chop bolt with quickstrip, ELCD, nitroduck 68CI,Gas thru stock, 12V revy, AGD Warpfeed system
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                • BlackWeenie
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 525

                  #9
                  do you need a low pressure tank for the excalibur?

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                  • xen_100
                    super-uber spyder tech
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 1203

                    #10
                    nope, they come with a sidewinder reg.

                    "super multi-green mag" Cp barrels, LX bolt, no-rise, intelli, 47ci flatline, halo................
                    Red dragun body, turbo valve, 12" Boomstick, Spud magics anti-chop bolt with quickstrip, ELCD, nitroduck 68CI,Gas thru stock, 12V revy, AGD Warpfeed system
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                    • BlackWeenie
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 525

                      #11
                      i forgot to add this in... what is FSDO? i always hear about people complaining about it and im not quite sure what it is.

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                      • Kyser
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 71

                        #12
                        FSDO is First Shot Drop OFF

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                        • Jack & Coke
                          TUNAMAX No. 1
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2644

                          #13
                          I remember a few years ago when AKA expounded the virtues of "closed bolt", and how it made their Excal the ultimate of both worlds (speed of electro + "accuracy closed bolt").

                          Then, when WAS gave the viking new life (un-capped ROF + debounce 1 + A.C.E.), AKA now had a gun just as fast as a WASED timmy (the best tourny gun at that time).

                          All of a sudden the Viking (open bolt) became the pride and flagship gun of AKA because of it's speed (without chopping)... so now the selling points (hype) AKA pushes is their SPEED, not the "ACCURACY of CLOSED BOLT" (Excal).

                          Excal = Venus Williams = GOOD

                          Viking = Serena Williams = GREAT

                          The Viking is the big money winner and famous name that the Excal wanted to be.

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                          • brtncstm160
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 449

                            #14
                            I think a lot of viking and excal users get rid of that with the use of an scm lpr or a mitey max (i think not to sure.)

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                            • xen_100
                              super-uber spyder tech
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1203

                              #15
                              Originally posted by brtncstm160
                              I think a lot of viking and excal users get rid of that with the use of an scm lpr or a mitey max (i think not to sure.)

                              JJ


                              if you are talking about FSDO, I beleive that AKA had a redesign on the ram oring. it was causing the ram to stick when it sat for a few seconds between shots. ussualy the LPR will not cause FSDO (unless it is a REALLY crappy LPR that cant keep a consistant pressure to the ram. in that case it will cause shootdown for every shot after the first one, not FSDO)



                              "super multi-green mag" Cp barrels, LX bolt, no-rise, intelli, 47ci flatline, halo................
                              Red dragun body, turbo valve, 12" Boomstick, Spud magics anti-chop bolt with quickstrip, ELCD, nitroduck 68CI,Gas thru stock, 12V revy, AGD Warpfeed system
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