upkeep for a cocker...

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  • nirvana1234
    Registered User
    • Jul 2004
    • 242

    #1

    upkeep for a cocker...

    im pretty confused. i want a cocker but i also want a mag, but the cocker looks soooo complicated, is it???
  • Adrenaline_Junkie

    #2
    ers do take some work to maintain but are decent guns. However being the owner of a few ers including a raced FF lotus as well as many mags incuding an emag i would have to say you would be better off with a custom mag. Mags are much easier to maintain and more reliable. I recomnd www.fragtek.com for custom mags Mine is the one on the main page and i love it, he has the fragmag out now and i believe it only cost $440. Thats a killer deal on a great gun.

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    • Automaggin2
      Registered User
      • Sep 2002
      • 2506

      #3
      I have a cocker. I dont think its complicated, then again, i love to tinker with my guns.


      I think cockers are good learning expierences. They teach you alot.


      I have had my cocker for 2 years now, not a single problem (except my bolt flying out of my gun)
      Dub V

      Where greatness is learned
      and couches are burned

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      • wantamag
        Rec Poster
        • Mar 2003
        • 5055

        #4
        cant go wrong with a ncie ule custom ...mags are def simpler and easier to maintain

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        • Automaggin2
          Registered User
          • Sep 2002
          • 2506

          #5
          Well, this is the worng forum to ask. Even tho there are alot of unbiased people in here, its still the wrong forum. You ask in the WGP forum what you should get, people will say a cocker, and vise versa
          Dub V

          Where greatness is learned
          and couches are burned

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          • FallNAngel
            Registered User
            • Apr 2003
            • 1076

            #6
            No, cockers are not complicated.
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            • wantamag
              Rec Poster
              • Mar 2003
              • 5055

              #7
              cockers arent complicated per say...but comparing to a mag the mag is def simpler anyone with basic knoledge can take care of a cocker but some people dont have a first clue as to whats going on if somethings not working right...needles to say thers those people with anytype of marker

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              • Adrenaline_Junkie

                #8
                Yeah, 'cockers arent really complicated its just there not as easy to maintain and stuff as mags. Ive owned really high end ers and low end ones as well and id still take my mag over them.

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                • WenULiVeUdiE
                  Force of Nature Staff
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1982

                  #9
                  Arent complicated at all. You have a switch( 3-way) that feeds air to a ram to recock it. Then you have a hammer hitting the valve like any other blowback spyder.

                  When things go wrong, it usually is an easy fix. Most of the time it is just something a little loose due to vibration or the like. Then again I'm fed up with having to fix mine so I'm getting a mag.
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                  • Spaceman613
                    Guinness taste tester
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 550

                    #10
                    Cockers arent that difficult for anyone with a basic mechanical mind... And mags ARNT as easy as they once were with ULT and LX... They arnt difficult either, but not nearly as "moron proof" as they once were.

                    And cockers dont need much upkeep, my main cocker gets re-timed onc a year, and always performs when i need it to
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                    • FallNAngel
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 1076

                      #11
                      I agree... what's so difficult to maintain about a cocker? They rarely go out of time and they take a few drops of oil before you play. What's so hard?
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                      • WenULiVeUdiE
                        Force of Nature Staff
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 1982

                        #12
                        The thing that gets most people down is when there is a problem with a cocker. It's the first problem they've had with it, and they know nothing about it. They then start turning everything and then they create even more of a mess. If you mess with it, it will mess with you. ( Of course I didnt mess with my cocker and it still messes with me, grrr) Once they are set, they rock. The only thing you may have to do besides oil it before you play is adjust the back block. Sometimes the pump arm backs into the ram rod and messes with the spacing.
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                        • FallNAngel
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 1076

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
                          Sometimes the pump arm backs into the ram rod and messes with the spacing.
                          Which is why you're supposed to use a bit of blue locktite there
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                          • WenULiVeUdiE
                            Force of Nature Staff
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 1982

                            #14
                            Yea, I figured that out the hard way, haha.

                            Cockers take a bit to master. Once you master them, they're a peice of cake.
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                            • Automaggin2
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 2506

                              #15
                              There are some great articles online on how to time a cocker. Once you get the hang of it, you'll be able to time a cocker in 5 minutes
                              Dub V

                              Where greatness is learned
                              and couches are burned

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