ICD '04 freestyle or DM4?

[wallace9111]

The freestyle that I had only chopped once and i must have shot 10-12 cases through it(I only owned it about a month). Although I will say no matter what marker you have if you use it enough and long enough you will get a chop its just going to happen, no eye system is 100% full proof. The Dm4 is a nice gun but so is the DM3, I do not have to much of an affinity for trix's, but I will admit they are very fast, but the freestyle is just as fast.

If there is any gun that got to much hype it is the sucky cyborg I just got rid of the one I owned, it was fast, very fast, but I had problems with bolt stick and lpr issues. I know for a fact (people on my team with cyborgs also had similar problems) other cyborgs have had this problem.

I will tell you right now the moment the freestyle starts getting 1400 off a 68/45 so many teams will be picking them up that have NPS as a main sponsor. You can not go wrong with a gun that is super small, compact and gets good effienecy and is fast as hell.


Will

[FallNAngel]

I'm still toying with the idea of selling my Cyborg for something else. I'm still interested a bit in the Freestyle, though the lack of board adjustability bothers me a bit. I mean, no dwell setting, no debounce filter, etc. If I went with one of the older models, I'd be able to drop in a Chaos board, but then I wouldn't have the features that the newer models have (valve, grip frame, etc).

I'm also interested in the Powerlyte Isis, but Powerlyte is being so hush-hush about it, that no one really knows anything about it... at all.

[dwab3000]

well, i know that some of the freestyles that were set uncorrectly (there are alot of people who do set it uncorrectly, it is a common problem) chop...

and wait a bit ICD, and other companys will come out with upgrades for the freestyle,.

also the freestyle will have the great feel to it

im sorry but a matrix just feels funny to me

but as for chopping i either mad molly didnt do something correctly, or had eyes off with a 12vt revvy

just my thoughts

[Oh_Davey]

I'm also interested in the Powerlyte Isis, but Powerlyte is being so hush-hush about it, that no one really knows anything about it... at all.

I saw that at IAO, I remember talking to the guy about it but forget what he said .

[madmolly]

Not likely

I work on all high end markers from eblades to angels and I don't think I do not know how to set up a freestyle. I read the manual and even called ICD. I probably chopped 8 balls in total but for me that is 8 balls to many. My dm4 never chopped period. I even lowered the debounce all the way and still awesome. And why are you so excited about getting company upgrades why not buy a marker that is perfect out of the box. I know only one marker that fits that description. DM4
And I tried everything to hate the DM4 because I did not want to be like these tards out there that Daddy buys them a 1300 dollar marker and they do not know what an asa is. But unfortunately I could not find an equal replacement. If anyone is in WI you can come over and shoot the freestyle versus the DM4 and see for yourself.

[tru_flip56]

"dwab3000 freestyel..and a freestyle could go 20 bps....not sure if you could hit it..but it CAN...most CAN now adays..to amaze me, get a guy with a pump to do 20 bps....if not..phftttt its useless, and they are probably using a cheater board "

no. i meant i heard the freestyle could only hit 20bps...meaning its maximum rate of fire is 20....and i have hit 20bps before on my angel.....

Yeah so far the DM4 seems to be the best gun ot there along with the a4 Fly....but the DM4 is so expensive and i juss started working....Do you guys think the DM4s price is gonna drop...and if so when?

[Head knight of Ni]

When the DM5 comes out. Expect a good sized drop in price.

[FallNAngel]

no. i meant i heard the freestyle could only hit 20bps...meaning its maximum rate of fire is 20....and i have hit 20bps before on my angel.....

You mean the flakey ROF meter on your Angel lied to you and told you that you shot 20bps.

[wallace9111]

The freestyles original board was set to something like 52 bps. I know the knew ones are at like 80 or something. With a chaos or was board the rof is unlimited. The way the freestyle is designed it is capable of being incredibley fast. There have been quotes on the ICD forum on Pbnation of the freestyle cycling at like 50 cps at ICD. It is an incredible design that should change things in a the paintball industry. The A4 is hype. All three of those guns are going to shoot really fast so its all about preference.

Will

[tru_flip56]

!!!52 bps!!! WOW...ive never heard about that...Does anyone else know what else guns that are freestyles and where i can find them?

[FallNAngel]

Does anyone else know what else guns that are freestyles and where i can find them?

Can you say that in English now?

[tru_flip56]

Does anyone know of any other freestyle guns that u can purchase.....there is that good enough for you?

[FallNAngel]

stock and naughty dog for now... bonebreak should be coming out IIRC

[tru_flip56]

can u buy any of those....and where?

[dwab3000]

contact NPS...for the bonebreak..wait a bit..it will come out soon enough