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  • Magglerock

    #1

    Whoi has the fastest -cycling valve now?

    AGD used to claim that the RT Valve was the fast-cycling valve on the market (27 cps or something like that). Now many claim valves that cycle in the high 30's, and some in the 40's. So who has the fastest cycling valve now?
  • gtrsi
    Automag?
    • Dec 2001
    • 5786

    #2
    I dont think it is a question of "valve" rather whole gun cps or just the reg. Most of the time we are talking about the whole gun.

    Last i checked the fastest is a WAS Viking...
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    • Deltree
      ph33r
      • Aug 2004
      • 128

      #3
      also it depends on the input i believe if you put 2000 psi into an xvalve it will cycle like 45 cps

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      • Magglerock

        #4
        Originally posted by Deltree
        also it depends on the input i believe if you put 2000 psi into an xvalve it will cycle like 45 cps

        I'm talking about fastest under normal opperating parameters.

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        • RRfireblade

          • Jun 2002
          • 5103

          #5
          also it depends on the input i believe if you put 2000 psi into an xvalve it will cycle like 45 cps
          Free cycle of a Mag valve regardless of input pressure is ~32-33cps.

          Pretty much any other pnuematic based system,Viking,Timmy,Angel ets, will be in the neighborhood 40cps. There all basically the same for aurgument sake.

          Any decent blowback such as Spyder and it's clones will reach around 50cps and will basically be the fastest of any other system.

          The ability for the air system(valve,reg,etc) to recharge fast enough to keep up with any particular markers max CPS is an entirely different story and one that really has yet to be fully tested by anyone in a reliable and controlled manner.

          Beyond 30cps, it's pretty much only speculation and mathmatical assumption.
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          • SpecialBlend2786
            Registered User
            • Jun 2003
            • 4023

            #6
            Originally posted by RRfireblade
            Free cycle of a Mag valve regardless of input pressure is ~32-33cps.

            Pretty much any other pnuematic based system,Viking,Timmy,Angel ets, will be in the neighborhood 40cps. There all basically the same for aurgument sake.

            Any decent blowback such as Spyder and it's clones will reach around 50cps and will basically be the fastest of any other system.

            The ability for the air system(valve,reg,etc) to recharge fast enough to keep up with any particular markers max CPS is an entirely different story and one that really has yet to be fully tested by anyone in a reliable and controlled manner.

            Beyond 30cps, it's pretty much only speculation and mathmatical assumption.
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            • toyotaboy12
              e-tough

              • May 2003
              • 3663

              #7
              can you explain to me why the spyders are the fastest, but then are beginner guns
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              • i_baked_cookies
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                • Jan 2003
                • 1360

                #8
                someone better make a super trigger pulling machine that pulls like 50 times a second and really test.
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                • Kevmaster
                  Owners Group Div: Director
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 5475

                  #9
                  Originally posted by i_baked_cookies
                  someone better make a super trigger pulling machine that pulls like 50 times a second and really test.
                  its really down around the low fourties....

                  but if you want to test, get a microphone and take a sound graph of it with the trigger frame off...just air up, pull back and let the bolt fly...thats as fast as it will go

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                  • scrumpy
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 524

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kevmaster
                    its really down around the low fourties....

                    but if you want to test, get a microphone and take a sound graph of it with the trigger frame off...just air up, pull back and let the bolt fly...thats as fast as it will go
                    That's not a reliable way to test out a spyder's (clone's) max cps though, as fireblade said tanks can't recharge fast enough.
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                    • Kevmaster
                      Owners Group Div: Director
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 5475

                      #11
                      you won't get full shots...but you will get enough of a noise for the first half dozen shots to get a pretty accurate CPS reading

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                      • nate2k191
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1170

                        #12
                        really, even if you could shoot 50 bps, thats a hopper gone in pretty much 2 seconds or less.. and i'd never wanna play like that. how fast the gun shoots isnt the major thing for me, i can play effectively with under 15 bps.
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                        • Steelrat
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                          • May 2003
                          • 5375

                          #13
                          The highest BPS I have seen is 31. Anyone seen anything higher?


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                          • Chojin Man
                            toodle
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 1229

                            #14
                            where did you see a marker shooting 31 bps?

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                            • Dayspring
                              aka- The Day Wang

                              • May 2001
                              • 9664

                              #15
                              The new PBX cocker with the mQvalve can. We have video that was independently verified by white wolf air-smithing.

                              We were 31+bps with paint.

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