'03 Shocker Ultimate Pkg

[madmolly]

Preach on

Isn't it amazing smart parts made turbo and produced it legally back then and everyone made it illegal becuase it was an unfair advantage and beat the hell out of anyone that went up against it. Now we have ramping boards that are like the same thing but that is just cool. I don't get it?

[BlackWeenie]

alright heres my opinion. it seems that about 75% of the shockers dont have problems and about 25% do. i think this is directly related to how these people take care of their equipment. where i play, the guys who dont care for their stuff are the ones who have troubles with their shockers. the guys who take it home and clean it every night after play dont seem to have any problems with them.

next thing: speed. that guy who said they cant rip? . they are just as fast as any high end gun, the only factor is weather you can adjust to the trigger, just like any other gun.

eyes: i always hear people whining about the SP eyes. the reality is, they arent that bad. as long as you buy paint that has a light coloured shell, youre fine. as for at tourneys, where you dont get to choose the paint, i have never been to a tourney where they use dark coloured paint, because they know about the probelm with it. if that doesnt work, just dont use vision. it doesnt really matter. as long as you have a halo or reloader (maybe even egg/apache) you wont be chopping. i doubt you will outshoot your halo, so you'll be fine without vision, honestly.

go for it.

[CoolHand]

. . . . I hate to sound like a dye ad but they rock and that is the honest truth.

I know it is, I have shot a few DM4s, and while I am not a big fan of the way they look, or the price tag, there is no denying the performance.

You are also right, that I have not put a million rounds through either of my shockers. The first one I had (that I used) saw about 6 cases before I cleaned it. Then I put it away, and didn't touch it again until I sold it. The only problem I ever had with that one, was a frozen oring in the maxflo when I screwed the wrong tank onto it (antisyphon tube upside down = dhoah!!!).

The newest one just came out of the box two weeks ago, and I ran about three hoppers through it to make sure everything was working, and then I tore it apart. (And there it sets, in bits, scattered all over the place. ) So I guess you could say that even my shocker is non-functional right now (though it be due to my own actions).

And yes, both of them ran on CO2. The second one I had up to 17bps (that's the fastest my fingers have ever gone ) over the chroney, with no shoot down, and no frozen parts (although, the tank did condensate like a mofo - august in missouri = 90 deg + 95% humidity)

Anyway, I don't doubt that people have had reliablity issues. Its gotten to be a cliche' almost, (the bagging on shocker's reliablity that is) and things don't get cliche'd unless they are repeated again and again and . . . .. . you get the point. I just think it is being exagerated by some (as in "every" shocker they've ever seen or heard about has been non-functional).

If some of the tales told were indeed true, SP headquarters would have been burned to the ground by a mob of angry PBN'ers ages ago, and SP would have filed chapter 11 papers. No manufacturer, not even one as good at advertising as SP, could survive a product line with a 95% failure rate.

That's what I think, as always, I could be completely full of crap, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Lohman446]

SP makes it... it must suck right?

I have a Vision shocker - with a Halo on it it was chopping like mad. I switched to a Apache and no chops (even with stiffer detents chopping). What in the name of all things holy was going on there?? No clue.. the Halo functions correctly on other markers.

For the record, I spend less game time teching it than I did convincing my LX to work, not leak, and not bolt stick on my e-mag.

As for not being fast... have you ever watched Strange play? I'll grant that would be a professional team, but it is the fastest shooting I have ever seen at PSP in Chicago. Oh, they must have been cheating. Now, out of the box it was slow, considerably slower than my e-mag but I fixed that.

The problem I have with them is the bolts, you basically have to go out and buy an updated bolt kit to get reasonably efficiency. That and buying shocker lube sucks

It is extremely quick, light, and I have shot at least seven cases through it without a chop (except for the HALO induced ones). Maintenance - after about four cases I take it down and grease everything, throw it back together and play.

[Glickman]

you'all putting down the shocker have just been blinded by the fact that alot of you just hate sp's stuff because of all of the hype.

i ordered the same package from action village awsome price

im gonna get my *** kicked for this, but i would choose a shocker over a emag any day. its all opinion, but personally, i like the 1.7 lbs and the matrix-like trigger.


i understand that some of you have very good reasons for not liking sp. and ive seen your arguments, which are very good.

try a few, not just one, but a few, because the first time i tried a viking, all it did was chop paint, leak air, and just plain suck. If i had based my opinion on just that, i would hate vikings, but after trying a few more, i found out that they rock.

Btw. if u goto shatnerball, i can let u shoot mine, it should be here just in time, and ill let u try it out in the target range.


"Don't listen to all the cheese heads baggin on everything with a target logo on it. "
Cant get any more true. Try a few, theres noth ing to loose.

Wohoo! CHEESEHEADS!!

[ryanshep]

try a few, not just one, but a few, because the first time i tried a viking, all it did was chop paint, leak air, and just plain suck.

hmm ive tried a couple shockers, vision w/ maxi and a dynasty with frenzy board and he bolt, both very fast and light but problem matic. fo that money, id definetly go w/ a vik or e-mag. anyone who complains about it being heavy, hit the weight room

[fire1811]

i had a 03 shocker. light, fast, pretty sweet gun when i first got it. after a little while(not long) i had to change most of the orings in it. not too bad if you can find the orings at the hardware store but if you have to buy a SP kit there like 20-30 bucks. you getting the ultimate package so you wont have to deal with the POS vert reg. That reg was the biggest pile i have ever used in my life. CONSTANT oring breaking. and no i didnt have it set at the wrong pressure.

i put a sidewinder on it and the gun ran SO much smoother. if you like how they shoot then i say. get it, you can always sell it.

[AcemanPB]

Isn't it amazing smart parts made turbo and produced it legally back then and everyone made it illegal becuase it was an unfair advantage and beat the hell out of anyone that went up against it. Now we have ramping boards that are like the same thing but that is just cool. I don't get it?

Ironic indeed

[BlackWeenie]

hmm ive tried a couple shockers, vision w/ maxi and a dynasty with frenzy board and he bolt, both very fast and light but problem matic. fo that money, id definetly go w/ a vik or e-mag. anyone who complains about it being heavy, hit the weight room

when the argument arises about weight, this is always the first thing thats said: "go lift weights". thats not the point. its not like ppl are getting fatigued from holding the gun, its just not as maneuverable and for a front man, thats very important.

[gc82000]

I thought that the newer Shockers were always light, not as much as my angel. But lighter then a Timmy or Trixie.


And hey nothing is wrong with hitting the weightroom every now and again.

[xprod77]

Hydro date?

Hey - does anyone know if the Max Flow tanks are 3 or 5 year tanks?

[madmolly]

5 year

New ones are 5 year.

[fire1811]

most tanks you buy now are all 5yr

[O_o]

I thought that the newer Shockers were always light, not as much as my angel. But lighter then a Timmy or Trixie.
And hey nothing is wrong with hitting the weightroom every now and again.

There's lots of alternatives if lightness is a concern for you. Alias style timmies are really light. If you want a non-stacked tube gun, freestyles are VERY light and come with break beam eyes. Heck, my bonebrake bushy weighs around 2lbs flat.

I've seen some shockers plain out rip, but then again, i've seen them down a lot too when at my field. I really dislike the small trigger guard though. And in mu opinion, they're like little squirt guns

[SampsonFBC]

There is a guy I know and play paintball with a lot and his schocker has never had any problems. In my book they are good guns. In fact I know 5-7 people who have them and have never had porblems.