x valve w/ ult Bounce? walkable?

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  • batteryfree
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 196

    #16
    i have a normal rt pro w/o ult, and i cant walk it at liek 12 bps. although i do finger work outs everyday for shooting my gun.

    oh and what did z_man do that was so cool, couse you said dont expect to go all z man on it.

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    • nt2004
      yeah, thats right...
      • May 2003
      • 832

      #17
      Originally posted by batteryfree
      i have a normal rt pro w/o ult, and i cant walk it at liek 12 bps. although i do finger work outs everyday for shooting my gun.

      oh and what did z_man do that was so cool, couse you said dont expect to go all z man on it.
      hes made several videos of mags running past 20bps, usually on run away or something similar. Also, could you make a video of you "walking" your RT at 12 because I'm having a hard time swalllowing this
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      • FragTek
        RPG DevilMAG Owner
        • Sep 2003
        • 2382

        #18
        Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.


        There's a vid of how easily the ULT can be fired and how bouncy it can be. It's easily walkable. More so if you have trigger stops installed.

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        • MDA71
          Registered User
          • Feb 2004
          • 20

          #19
          15 ounces for ULT?

          I was looking at the AGD website and it listed the ULT trigger pull kit at 15 ounces. I did the conversion below:

          425 grams = 15 ounces

          The average electronic switches (for paintball) usually equal anything from 25 ~ 150 grams.

          25 grams = .88 ounces
          50 grams = 1.76 onces
          and so on....

          I would find it very hard to walk any gun with 15 onces of resistance. Most electronic guns are about 3~10 times lighter that the ULT. Never thought it was that heavy until I did the conversions now.


          FYI

          MDA71 :)

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          • personman

            #20
            Its not hard to walk the ULT. It just takes rhythm.

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            • Stealthgerbil
              Registered User
              • May 2004
              • 196

              #21
              and the stock gipframe on a classic is 3lbs... thats a lot
              I have a ReTrO Mag
              -ReTrO Valve /w ULT -E-mag Warp Body
              -Intelliframe -Warp Feed
              -LVL10 Superbolt
              -Dye Xcel 14inch

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              • evo.end3R
                Mid/Front::PMI/RPS Factory
                • Aug 2004
                • 1196

                #22
                get emag lowers and Sell the ult. thats what i did and its so much faster, VERY easy to walk
                Last edited by evo.end3R; 09-09-2004, 09:44 PM.
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                STOP PLAYING WITH MY SIG ITS NOT TOO BIG

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                • wantamag
                  Rec Poster
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5055

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Stealthgerbil
                  and the stock gipframe on a classic is 3lbs... thats a lot
                  since when ?

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                  • evo.end3R
                    Mid/Front::PMI/RPS Factory
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 1196

                    #24
                    someone told me stock was like 11 lbs... thats as heavy as the gun. btw what is stock trigger pull? cant be 11 lbs it doesnt feel close to that..
                    Ender's Violent/Hybrid Alias: 14" Stiffi, Frenzy116, Critical Trigger, VPp Torp HPR, Hybrid LPR w/ VPp, hybrid ARC

                    STOP PLAYING WITH MY SIG ITS NOT TOO BIG

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                    • personman

                      #25
                      Originally posted by evo.end3R
                      get emag lowers and well the ult. thats what i did and its so much faster, VERY easy to walk
                      If you get both emag lowers and ult you will lower your ROF substantially.
                      The ULT was not designed to be used in conjunction with the E-mag frame.

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                      • evo.end3R
                        Mid/Front::PMI/RPS Factory
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1196

                        #26
                        i know that was a type i meant to hit SELL
                        Ender's Violent/Hybrid Alias: 14" Stiffi, Frenzy116, Critical Trigger, VPp Torp HPR, Hybrid LPR w/ VPp, hybrid ARC

                        STOP PLAYING WITH MY SIG ITS NOT TOO BIG

                        :ninja:

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                        • trevorjk
                          <S>WooLooLoo</S>
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 4324

                          #27
                          Originally posted by evo.end3R
                          someone told me stock was like 11 lbs... thats as heavy as the gun. btw what is stock trigger pull? cant be 11 lbs it doesnt feel close to that..
                          the stock on/off on the rt valve is around 3 pounds.(1,360 grams)

                          with the ult on/off it is reduced to around 12 ounces(340 grams)... wich is less then a pound.

                          a spyder eframe with stock microswitch is 5.3 ounces(150 grams)



                          now granted you are not able to sweet spot your trigger... ( wich i usually can with the ULT's people say they can walk) ..... it is walkable... but it will take practice and your not going to get insane electro speeds while walking your ULT
                          t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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                          • evo.end3R
                            Mid/Front::PMI/RPS Factory
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 1196

                            #28
                            Originally posted by trevorjk
                            the stock on/off on the rt valve is around 3 pounds.

                            with the ult on/off it is reduced to around 12 ounces... wich is less then a pound.

                            a spyder eframe with stock microswitch is 5.3 ounces



                            now granted you are not able to sweet spot your trigger... ( wich i usually can with the ULT's people say they can walk) ..... it is walkable... but it will take practice and your not going to get insane electro speeds while walking your ULT

                            im tlaking about minimag valve with stockon/off

                            anyone know the oz of a xvalve with rt pro on.off on emag lowers? really light, just wonding how light if anyone knows
                            Ender's Violent/Hybrid Alias: 14" Stiffi, Frenzy116, Critical Trigger, VPp Torp HPR, Hybrid LPR w/ VPp, hybrid ARC

                            STOP PLAYING WITH MY SIG ITS NOT TOO BIG

                            :ninja:

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                            • trevorjk
                              <S>WooLooLoo</S>
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 4324

                              #29
                              Originally posted by evo.end3R

                              anyone know the oz of a xvalve with rt pro on.off on emag lowers? really light, just wonding how light if anyone knows

                              its going to be the same as what i said above i believe... unless your useing hybrid or emode.

                              rt pro valve and xvalve are the same thing... only the xvalve is aluminum and it has a small notch cut above the on/off pin for more air to pass to make the valve a hair less reactive (correct me if im wrong)
                              t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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                              • wantamag
                                Rec Poster
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 5055

                                #30
                                Originally posted by trevorjk
                                rt pro valve and xvalve are the same thing... only the xvalve is aluminum and it has a small notch cut above the on/off pin for more air to pass to make the valve a hair less reactive (correct me if im wrong)
                                dont mind if i do .

                                yeah all correct but the on/off mod started with the rt pros so anything thats not a classic rt has the SAME function

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