Cocker Or Angel, Which would you rather use?

[FeelTheRT]

a common set of guns is a tricked out Angel, and then a basic but nice back up Cocker. I'd go for an Angel just because of the speed, maybe later on buy a used Cocker.

[drake9]

I simply hate both cockers and angels...

cockers have blow back which is to intertaining to keep me thinking about my game and they are so freaking complicated.

angels are inacurate and dont shoot very far. They are over priced and over rated.

and now for a gun I dont hate, E-Mag!! Sexy trigger, not to loud, simple, fast as hell!
I dont think this post is to helpful i just felt like ranting...

[covadsucks]

In terms of daily usage, I would have to go with a cocker, as mine will outperform most angels it meets. I have my WGP hinge set so short the safety can be engaged and the marker will still fire. But before I hotrodded mine, my STO stomped a mudhole in a few Angels at the local speedball field. COCKER ALL THE WAY!
Angels make nice paperweights in my opinion.

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Originally posted by drake9
I simply hate both cockers and angels...

cockers have blow back which is to intertaining to keep me thinking about my game and they are so freaking complicated.

angels are inacurate and dont shoot very far. They are over priced and over rated.

and now for a gun I dont hate, E-Mag!! Sexy trigger, not to loud, simple, fast as hell!
I dont think this post is to helpful i just felt like ranting...

d00d ur speaking out ur *** now ok why would a e mag shoot farther then an angel if the muzzle speeds are the exactly the same. oh and accuracy is mostly paint and barrel match.

[damageinc54]

Originally posted by drake9
cockers have blow back

You really have no idea what you are talking about. Cockers can be adjusted to have NO blowback. If you are really good you can adjust them to where they will have a tiny bit of vacuum.

[magman007]

cockers and blow back are usually non existant, if your cocker is timmed properly. If you realize how a closed bolt syestem works, most, if not all the air has already cycled out of the gun before the breach opens for another ball to drop in.

Your next point is cockers are complicated. THat is bull crap. Cockers have more moving parts, but they still dont have that many. They are pretty easy to maintain, and if you dont fiddle with them, you will be fine.

Angels are not innacurate, they may seem inacurate because they throw alot of paint, and in prabability, they are more accurate than a spyder.

[liigod]

LOL angels are inacurate, its a fact. Cockers and simple if you learn how they work. I dont know every part in a cocker, but i can fix any problem just cus they are simply designed. manny parts doesnt mean its complicated. Cockers have NO block back and f5 sucks balls into the chamber.

[paintballer187]

i would rather have an Angel, but thats because i have never shot a cocker but i have shot an Angel once.

[covadsucks]

Any cocker when timed properly will not experience any acknowledgable blowback, hence the cocker not needing powerfeed. This person speaking of blowback must've had his timing too close together as that is the only way to experience blowback. The pnuematics were gassing back up before the hammer dropped. Simple fix, but Cockers are quite accurate from that closed bolt firing platform as there is no real recoil to alter your shot. The Angels I have shot are similar in that regard, but they are less accurate as the Infinity barrel was not matched to the paint being shot.

[Maghappy]

angel or mag. no questions asked. i mean dude... its a cocker...

[vaypourus]

Both are nice....but for some reason, I have this special place in my heart for cockers. My mag is sexy sexy sexy....but if I ever bought another gun (and I hope to soon) it would be a freeflow cocker. No hesitation.

[banzaimf]

angel or cocker... first of I must admit that I have no on the field experience with an angel. I have shot exactly 2. A protoype at WDP in 96 and a dark lcd that is at a local shop.

My cocker experience is somewhat less limited. I built one from a box of parts in 97, and have just finished building my second one.


now the nitty gritty on my opinion.

A cocker with better pneus (I am not a fan of Kapps image enhancing products) and a good hinge frame can be extremely fast. (side note: I prefer the eclipse over the wgp hinge)

I have not been able to attain the same rate of fire with an angel as I have with my cocker. That may very well be an issue with the way I rhythm shoot.

If you already have a Kapp cocker, I would recommend throwing a hinge frame on it and seeing how it feels... if it doesn't feel right you can sell it and buy an angel.

banzaimf

[paintbattler]

if u upgraded the angel i wood pick it buut if u have a stock angel and a upgraded cocker i wood get the cocker

[AngelBoy]

The only way you can make a gun more accurate is by getting a right paint/barrel match or with spin. Angels may seem more accurate because most people with Angels overshoot (not downin anybody, I do it too), thus causing shootdown.

[edweird]

The 'Cocker and the Angel are always second to me to the mag

but for the sake of the poll

Id take a KAPP flame Cocker with a piviot trigger over an Angel

only because my wife would steal the Angel