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  • Felsin
    Registered User
    • Sep 2004
    • 20

    #1

    Need mag advice

    Heres some story to my post...so I got this tumor thing and cant paintball cause ill bleed internally and die cause im on blood thinners so I have a job paying well and im a kid so all my money can go towards buying a good gun. All I have ever owned is a spyder and I havnt paintballed in like a year so bear with me...

    Ok so I checked out the RT ULE Customs and I really like all the things the gun comes with but I need some advice. Im looking for a tournament level mechanical mag and was wondering how I should go about getting that set up. Should i get the RT ULE Custom and throw a expansion chamber and electronic hopper and a new barrel or is there a better way to go about it? Also I dont have a money limit since Ill just save longer. Thanks
  • fdrsk8boarder
    Registered User
    • Oct 2003
    • 163

    #2
    wait are u still on the blood thiners and still tryin to play,


    ill let someone more experienced with mags answer your question i was just making sure your not goin to get a gun, get shot, and die
    Wise Man once told me, "When red river flows, take the dirt road"

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    • wantamag
      Rec Poster
      • Mar 2003
      • 5055

      #3
      welcome to AO you can get ANY kind of mag u want.
      store.airgun.com

      or talk to oen of the AO dealers,Roguefactor,whitewolf,coolhand,tuna,etc

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      • wantamag
        Rec Poster
        • Mar 2003
        • 5055

        #4
        darn beat me and yeah didnt u just say u cant play? so why buy the gun?

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        • RTDynaflow
          Registered User
          • Aug 2004
          • 320

          #5
          Mech mags are awesome. I acutally like the feel of a mag over any other gun out there. RTs are great. Check out www.deadlywind.com, he has some sexy bodys. You really don't need an expansion chamber, because you will need HPA. Electronic hopper? For sure. Which one is a better question. Barrel? For sure, which Kit is a better question.

          A better way to get there? By there, do you mean a crazy fast paint spraying thingy that is really efficient and ridiculously accurate? A viking is the best way "there". I still do love the feel of my RT though...

          Sorry if I am not much help. Throw us some more direct questions.... otherwise all we can do is speculate on what you are really looking for.

          Hope your not just buying a gun to shoot at the trees in your backyard. When are you getting off the medicine?

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          • Felsin
            Registered User
            • Sep 2004
            • 20

            #6
            Im sorry i didnt explain it well. I get off blood thinners in a month or 2 Im buying a new gun in hte meantime since all im doing it working and going home cause I cant do any activities really. Also I wasnt very specific because I dont really know what to ask so much but since I got some nice answers ill go with it.

            What is a good HPA system for a mag, whats a nice barrel for a mag would it be a boomstick? I guess thats about it and thanks for asnwering.

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            • RTDynaflow
              Registered User
              • Aug 2004
              • 320

              #7
              There are enough options to keep you up all night for weeks... I went through all the reviews and tried all kinds of regs and tanks. I finally bought a Dynaflow. If you want more info on it you can PM me.

              Barrel? Scepter, Switch, Pipe, SM-1, long bow... all good barrel kits and will run you from 150-230.

              I would say look around. Spend some time checking out what others think about different items. It all depends on how much you want to get into it. If you want to go out for a weekend and play some recball, thats great. If you want to practise 2, 3 times a week and go to a bunch of tournies, you may need something other then a mag.

              I would look in the B/S/T here. Fragtek has some awesome deals on Custom ULEs. There are some sexy 90* frames out there. GA Devil has his own marker based on the mag platform. It's a ULE custom with his own 90 frame and pred 2 board, eyes, and 25g switch. Between that, and a dallara body, you have one sic marker.

              I would also reccomend you check out the vikings and excals. Efficient, fast, accurate. Beautiful if milled right.

              Feel free to PM me. I can give you some basic info and try and asnwers some questions. At the very least, I can point you in the direction of better info.

              Nate
              Last edited by RTDynaflow; 09-28-2004, 11:40 PM. Reason: I seriously need to start proof reading my shiz

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              • HoppysMag
                Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                • Oct 2001
                • 3494

                #8
                good luck with that tumor though man
                "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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                • LUKE4696
                  Legend in my own mind
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 75

                  #9
                  'mags

                  First and foremost, good luck with the tumor! Secondly, customizing a 'mag is like opening a can of worms, you can go anywhere you want with it. I just recently got back into paintball, and in the past 6 months have owned 3 'mags. The one in my sig is the latest and greatest, and represents what you would need to have a competitive (i.e. good for speedball, awesome for scenario...) mechanical mag. First thing you need to do is determine what kind of body you want. Some bodies need rails, others don't. My micromag body has a built in rail, so it's pretty simple to do deal with. The RTpro or ULE, or most of those other set-ups, run a body/rail combo. This means that you mount a body to the rain, then mount the grip frame to the body. Either way is good, just kind of a preference thing.

                  Then you need to decide what kind of valve to get. If you buy a classic valve (old style, AIR, been out since back in the day...), you'll probably want to trade it in for a reactive style valve (i.e. Retro valve or the newer version known as the X-valve). All the valves are capable of shooting crazy amounts of BPS, the reactive vales are just easier to do it with. Note that if you get an older style retro valve, you will need to make sure it has a level X installed. If it doesn't have this (which came stock on the X-valve), your gun will be a paint blender!!!

                  Next is the loader, no easy way to get around this. The more balls per second if can feed, the better. Try to get a HALO B (or Reloader B) as this feeds crazy amounts, are very popular, and are upgradeable to feed upwards of 35 balls per second. A step below this, but still very good, would be a Ricochet Apache or a VL evolution (Egg). When in doubt, stay away from the lower end stuff, you'll just end up buying better crap at some point

                  And finally, you'll need to get a trigger assembly. As 'mags are very difficult to 'walk', the trigger is somewhat of a non-issue. I had an old classic grip that I replaced with a $100 airgun intelliframe. And though the new grip looks better (and can be hooked into your loader), I still 'sweet spot' the valve and shoot full auto. I get no benefit from the new trigger, though it is very nice to look at.

                  Don't forget HPA. You really can't go wrong with any preset high pressure HPA tank. You could always go cheap and pick up a 47CI/3K (stands for 47 cubic inch, 3000 PSI tank) for around 50-70 bucks. Its a good place to start and you can upgrade from their.

                  Hope this helps. And remember, no 'mag is really alike b/c you can piece them all together. Get something, then start upgrading. Anyone who says "buy this, it has everything", only means that it has everything that they want. There is no end all/be all to automags.
                  Micromag w/ ReTro-Valve & LVL-X
                  Black Intelli-Frame w/ blade trigger
                  68/3K Crossfire & DYE armor
                  Ricochet Apache

                  '02 WGP Blue STO w/ Shocktech and Free-Flow internals
                  Eclipse e'blade
                  68/3K ACI & DYE armor
                  Full SP Freak Kit (BOO!)
                  HALO-B

                  Oh yeah, dancing bananas...

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                  • Automaggot68

                    #10
                    Dude, of the few posts you've made here Luke, they're all really good.
                    Kudo's to you.

                    Originally posted by LUKE4696
                    First and foremost, good luck with the tumor! Secondly, customizing a 'mag is like opening a can of worms, you can go anywhere you want with it. I just recently got back into paintball, and in the past 6 months have owned 3 'mags. The one in my sig is the latest and greatest, and represents what you would need to have a competitive (i.e. good for speedball, awesome for scenario...) mechanical mag. First thing you need to do is determine what kind of body you want. Some bodies need rails, others don't. My micromag body has a built in rail, so it's pretty simple to do deal with. The RTpro or ULE, or most of those other set-ups, run a body/rail combo. This means that you mount a body to the rain, then mount the grip frame to the body. Either way is good, just kind of a preference thing.

                    Then you need to decide what kind of valve to get. If you buy a classic valve (old style, AIR, been out since back in the day...), you'll probably want to trade it in for a reactive style valve (i.e. Retro valve or the newer version known as the X-valve). All the valves are capable of shooting crazy amounts of BPS, the reactive vales are just easier to do it with. Note that if you get an older style retro valve, you will need to make sure it has a level X installed. If it doesn't have this (which came stock on the X-valve), your gun will be a paint blender!!!

                    Next is the loader, no easy way to get around this. The more balls per second if can feed, the better. Try to get a HALO B (or Reloader B) as this feeds crazy amounts, are very popular, and are upgradeable to feed upwards of 35 balls per second. A step below this, but still very good, would be a Ricochet Apache or a VL evolution (Egg). When in doubt, stay away from the lower end stuff, you'll just end up buying better crap at some point

                    And finally, you'll need to get a trigger assembly. As 'mags are very difficult to 'walk', the trigger is somewhat of a non-issue. I had an old classic grip that I replaced with a $100 airgun intelliframe. And though the new grip looks better (and can be hooked into your loader), I still 'sweet spot' the valve and shoot full auto. I get no benefit from the new trigger, though it is very nice to look at.

                    Don't forget HPA. You really can't go wrong with any preset high pressure HPA tank. You could always go cheap and pick up a 47CI/3K (stands for 47 cubic inch, 3000 PSI tank) for around 50-70 bucks. Its a good place to start and you can upgrade from their.

                    Hope this helps. And remember, no 'mag is really alike b/c you can piece them all together. Get something, then start upgrading. Anyone who says "buy this, it has everything", only means that it has everything that they want. There is no end all/be all to automags.

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                    • 68automagpwnr
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 138

                      #11
                      didnt really read everything above since im at school and have to hurry but anyways, a good gun is a bko pds, its got eyes and all that, and its a pretty fast gun, you can get a new pds for like 450 or a used one or some cheaper but yeah. It may be cheaper in that you wont have to buy the ULT kit for an xvalve mag which is one of the faster cheaper mags. sorry if that is confusing the bell rings in 2 minutes so i had to get it all out quick. LATER
                      Andrew



                      ebay feedback

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                      • LUKE4696
                        Legend in my own mind
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 75

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Automaggot68
                        Dude, of the few posts you've made here Luke, they're all really good.
                        Kudo's to you.
                        I try! I am just now getting back into the sport after a few years off, and I am always looking for some solid insight into paintball and gear as I need to play catch up. Now that I have a lil' information, I feel like I should help those out who need a little direction. Not to mention, nothing sucks more than wasting money!
                        Micromag w/ ReTro-Valve & LVL-X
                        Black Intelli-Frame w/ blade trigger
                        68/3K Crossfire & DYE armor
                        Ricochet Apache

                        '02 WGP Blue STO w/ Shocktech and Free-Flow internals
                        Eclipse e'blade
                        68/3K ACI & DYE armor
                        Full SP Freak Kit (BOO!)
                        HALO-B

                        Oh yeah, dancing bananas...

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                        • Felsin
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 20

                          #13
                          Thanks for your replies peeps! Im sure the tumor will work out fine infact im getting a venus study this week to see when its coming out. About the mag deal, Ive decided to go with a x-valve mag but I cant decide If i need the intelligrip if i have a 9volt hopper and a power feed. Again any input is welcome.

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                          • wantamag
                            Rec Poster
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 5055

                            #14
                            9vlt wont keep up with your fastest days even intellid but itl help. if u can get a 12 vlt thats a bit better(not sure if u can relaoder mod the 9vlts or soemthing) assumiing u can shoot atleast 13 bps u need something that fast or faster.

                            as for the cancer you should really look into ph studies done including alkali etc(basicly the theory soem say proven that if your body is acid i beleive that u cant/wont get cancer) worth a shot

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                            • Automaggot68

                              #15
                              Originally posted by wantamag
                              9vlt wont keep up with your fastest days even intellid but itl help. if u can get a 12 vlt thats a bit better(not sure if u can relaoder mod the 9vlts or soemthing) assumiing u can shoot atleast 13 bps u need something that fast or faster.

                              as for the cancer you should really look into ph studies done including alkali etc(basicly the theory soem say proven that if your body is acid i beleive that u cant/wont get cancer) worth a shot
                              You can Reload mod a 9volt,You simply replace the interals with what they give you, impeller/motor, connecting wires, and board that supports two nine volts.

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