Well, it finally happened... I got ripped.. advice?
Hey guys.
I've been buying selling and trading on the internet for three years now and I finally got ripped off. I'm pretty ticked but im remaining calm.
It was one of those deals that followed the rule 'if its too good to be true, it isnt'. Its just that I had gotten so many good internet deals over the years that I was pretty confident.
Well, it started out with my friend wanting a mag. I bought one off the internet (thanks slipknot) for a great price and traded it to him for his impulse. He had had the impulse for a while but never used it too much due to problems with his knees (they are getting better now). I personally dont like impulses but this was a pretty nice gun. It shot great.
Right now I dont have a very nice guitar, and I want a better one. I was browsing around on PBN and found this thread. He has edited out his first post but luckally I saved it. It read:
That wasnt all he said, but thats all I saved.
It also had this picture linked: http://brittontv.com/southpaw/cl+.jpg
I dont know much about guitars so I looked it up, and that was a VERY nice guitar.
At fist I was thinking, no way am I going to get this. Then I saw that someone else had offered an impulse which wasnt as nice as the one I thought, and this guy said he was interested. So I said what the heck and posted mine.
He sent me an instant message. Click Here To Read (Note the ONLY things I edited I clearly stated when I did, and were for legitimate reasons.)
He seemed like a pretty nice guy, pretty good communication, and I was ready to do the deal.
Later we talked again in this IM: Click Here To Read.
Theres a little gap in here, where I guess I forgot to save the convo. I recorded a video of the gun firing paint, working perfectly fine. I also took some very high quality pictures.
He told me that I would have to pay for shipping for the guitar since he diddnt have the money to do it. That was cool with me.
It continues: Click Here To Read
After this, he gives me the tracking number and asks me if I can go ahead and send the gun because he had a tourney he wanted to use it in. I was pretty reluctant but I trusted the guy so I said ok. When I got the guitar, it looked like it was in amazing condition and I was pretty happy with it. I wanted to find more about the guitar so I googled it and I couldnt find any other pics that looked just like this guitar. So I registered and posted on ultimate-guitar.com. Read the thread here:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum...hreadid=135077
Well, as you can imagine, after I got this responce I was pretty ticked. I thought maybe the guy had made a mistake though, so I decided not to yell at him. I sent him a PM on PBN and asked him to get on AIM asap because I had a question about the guitar. He got on pretty fast, and this is how our convo went: Click Here To Read.
I dont know if the guy was playing stupid or what. I sent him another PM or two and he diddnt reply to them. I'm stupid for not saving them but I have some clips of what I said.
I asked him if he would send me back the gun or 350. He diddnt reply so I sent him another one asking why he wouldnt reply to my PMs. This was his response..
Um, ok.. The guitar is worth 100 and the gun tank and hopper are worth 500.. how exactly is that fair?
This was my reply:
It does sound good, I like the sound in overdrive atleast. I cant for the life of me get the higher frets in tune though, no matter how much I adjust the bridge things (which are supposed to fix it)
Also it is just the concept that I lost 400 dollars. I dont throw that kind of money away.
I understand that you like the gun, I like it too. But if you want to keep it you're going to have to compensate for my losses, which means atleast 350 worth of stuff.
His reply:
I told him that I would give him time to think of something to send me, or come up with money. This is what he said.
I sent him a few more messages. I dont really remember what they said. He diddnt reply to them. I could see from message tracking that he had read them so I asked him:
personman wrote on 09-26-2004 12:18 AM:
Er-- are you going to reply to my messages or ignore me?
He replied:
Right now im trying to mess with the gun...im shooting at 133 fps, which is not good.
I'm thinking.. uhh what? The gun was working fine when I sent it out. I did a search and I found this thread:
I dont see how this could have happened, and I still dont. The gun was working perfectly fine when I sent it out, I swear by my life.
I talked to him a little on AIM and asked him when he could get the money to me. He said he was getting a job soon and could pay me. So I have him time. I asked him in a PM when he was getting a job and he replied
"'ll contact you when i find something out."
Well I was starting to get a little impatient. I told him very plainly that if I did not see the money soon that I would start to get pissed. He replied with this:
"Well it'd be better if you just calmed down....why get pissed off when you can't do anything about it."
This morning I sent him this.
And I was shocked when he sent me this:
WHAT?!
I sent him this:
He just replied with this:
Well, I'm not exactly sure what to do now. I'm thinking about calling his parents. Can anyone help me out here?
Thanks for reading this insanely long post, I appreciate it.
Adam
I've been buying selling and trading on the internet for three years now and I finally got ripped off. I'm pretty ticked but im remaining calm.
It was one of those deals that followed the rule 'if its too good to be true, it isnt'. Its just that I had gotten so many good internet deals over the years that I was pretty confident.
Well, it started out with my friend wanting a mag. I bought one off the internet (thanks slipknot) for a great price and traded it to him for his impulse. He had had the impulse for a while but never used it too much due to problems with his knees (they are getting better now). I personally dont like impulses but this was a pretty nice gun. It shot great.
Right now I dont have a very nice guitar, and I want a better one. I was browsing around on PBN and found this thread. He has edited out his first post but luckally I saved it. It read:
This is a Gibson Lespaul Classic Plus, cherry sunburst guitar. The MSRP for this guitar is $2200....I inheirited it from my grandfather about 4 months ago. It's in perfect working condition. I replaced the original neck with a (Lotus) Les Paul neck. I stripped all the strings off but never got around to putting new ones on. (you could put strings on it for less than $10)
It also had this picture linked: http://brittontv.com/southpaw/cl+.jpg
I dont know much about guitars so I looked it up, and that was a VERY nice guitar.
At fist I was thinking, no way am I going to get this. Then I saw that someone else had offered an impulse which wasnt as nice as the one I thought, and this guy said he was interested. So I said what the heck and posted mine.
He sent me an instant message. Click Here To Read (Note the ONLY things I edited I clearly stated when I did, and were for legitimate reasons.)
He seemed like a pretty nice guy, pretty good communication, and I was ready to do the deal.
Later we talked again in this IM: Click Here To Read.
Theres a little gap in here, where I guess I forgot to save the convo. I recorded a video of the gun firing paint, working perfectly fine. I also took some very high quality pictures.
He told me that I would have to pay for shipping for the guitar since he diddnt have the money to do it. That was cool with me.
It continues: Click Here To Read
After this, he gives me the tracking number and asks me if I can go ahead and send the gun because he had a tourney he wanted to use it in. I was pretty reluctant but I trusted the guy so I said ok. When I got the guitar, it looked like it was in amazing condition and I was pretty happy with it. I wanted to find more about the guitar so I googled it and I couldnt find any other pics that looked just like this guitar. So I registered and posted on ultimate-guitar.com. Read the thread here:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum...hreadid=135077
Well, as you can imagine, after I got this responce I was pretty ticked. I thought maybe the guy had made a mistake though, so I decided not to yell at him. I sent him a PM on PBN and asked him to get on AIM asap because I had a question about the guitar. He got on pretty fast, and this is how our convo went: Click Here To Read.
I dont know if the guy was playing stupid or what. I sent him another PM or two and he diddnt reply to them. I'm stupid for not saving them but I have some clips of what I said.
I asked him if he would send me back the gun or 350. He diddnt reply so I sent him another one asking why he wouldnt reply to my PMs. This was his response..
Sorry about that...some of my friends get on my name here and read my PM's so i didn't know i had any new ones. Anyways...i like the gun, and i don't want to send it back, i think we had a fair trade.
What im trying to say is we made the trade...you said the guitar sounds good. I mean i know it plays fine. What do you not like about it?
It does sound good, I like the sound in overdrive atleast. I cant for the life of me get the higher frets in tune though, no matter how much I adjust the bridge things (which are supposed to fix it)
Also it is just the concept that I lost 400 dollars. I dont throw that kind of money away.
I understand that you like the gun, I like it too. But if you want to keep it you're going to have to compensate for my losses, which means atleast 350 worth of stuff.
His reply:
I'm sorry...i don't have $350 worth of anything to give you right now man...
I can't really thing of anything to send you...
personman wrote on 09-26-2004 12:18 AM:
Er-- are you going to reply to my messages or ignore me?
He replied:
Right now im trying to mess with the gun...im shooting at 133 fps, which is not good.
I'm thinking.. uhh what? The gun was working fine when I sent it out. I did a search and I found this thread:
I dont see how this could have happened, and I still dont. The gun was working perfectly fine when I sent it out, I swear by my life.
I talked to him a little on AIM and asked him when he could get the money to me. He said he was getting a job soon and could pay me. So I have him time. I asked him in a PM when he was getting a job and he replied
"'ll contact you when i find something out."
Well I was starting to get a little impatient. I told him very plainly that if I did not see the money soon that I would start to get pissed. He replied with this:
"Well it'd be better if you just calmed down....why get pissed off when you can't do anything about it."
This morning I sent him this.
Hey, Something just came up and I need that money pretty badly. Can you borrow it from your parents or something? I think they would understand if you told them a guy has been waiting almost a month for this money now..
If it'll help, I'll call and talk to them.
Thanks
If it'll help, I'll call and talk to them.
Thanks
i'm not sending jack...because the gun doesn't even work anymore
I sent him this:
WTF?
I sent you the gun working perfectly fine, I video taped it working and everything. I dont know what the hell you did to the gun but whatever it was was your fault and not mine. I still expect the money or I will take legal actions.
I sent you the gun working perfectly fine, I video taped it working and everything. I dont know what the hell you did to the gun but whatever it was was your fault and not mine. I still expect the money or I will take legal actions.
Well your not getting **** from me buddy....the gun now shoots 133fps MAX...i cannot find out what is wrong with it. and wtf? legal actions? what are you going to do? call the cops and tell them that you made a trade with some guy on the internet but you didn't like what you got so you want it back?
Well, I'm not exactly sure what to do now. I'm thinking about calling his parents. Can anyone help me out here?
Thanks for reading this insanely long post, I appreciate it.
Adam
that could have advised you on the Guitar and perhaps saved you the heartache.
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