Confirmed: Shockers available with "rebound" feature

[Lohman446]

I confirmed this today, the ones that SP has in stock now are with rebound... the rebound board is NOT the same size as the Nerve board, but will be available soon as an upgrade for about $150 - no confirmed price.

Now I know what a lot of you think of the board - but I have noticed a shift from "one shot one pul" to as long as you dnt hit someone more than three times on a bunker run than its ok. The Rebound feature addresses this - and is able to be turned off for the places that dont allow it.

[FallNAngel]

How does the rebound feature address it? The rebound board is creating (or allowing) bounce/ramping. IMO, it shouldn't be there in the first place.

[Lohman446]

It allows my first three or four shots to be true semi auto - the shots I would pull on a bunker run whiling having something more for laning when I want to. So its not legal in PSP and NPPL, it is legal at many of the smaller fields around here

[ghideon]

So its not legal in PSP and NPPL, it is legal at many of the smaller fields around here

It won't be when the insurance companies get a clue. I swear if I get lit up by some idiot using a marker with heavy bounce/rebound/whatever, I'll be screaming at the field owner to kick said idiot off, or I'll be complaining to the fields insurance carrier.

[ilikePB]

This is old news on the Shocker forums. Rebound has 5 settings, 1 is true semi and 5 is the most rebound. Rebound isn't like normal ramping it actually lowers your debounce settings after you attain a certain amount of bps, however it stops shooting when you stop pulling the trigger, unlike normal bounce. It can be turned off so there is no reason for to complain about this any more than you complain about multi mode firing on Spyder clones. All new Shockers have been coming with this for about 1-2 weeks now from the factory.

[ilikePB]

It won't be when the insurance companies get a clue. I swear if I get lit up by some idiot using a marker with heavy bounce/rebound/whatever, I'll be screaming at the field owner to kick said idiot off, or I'll be complaining to the fields insurance carrier.

Where have you been man? Everyone around here plays with bounce at rec fields. How is this any different for insurance companies than all the Spyders and clones with multi mode firing?

[Lohman446]

It won't be when the insurance companies get a clue. I swear if I get lit up by some idiot using a marker with heavy bounce/rebound/whatever, I'll be screaming at the field owner to kick said idiot off, or I'll be complaining to the fields insurance carrier.

With it set up to come on afte four shots it will not happen in an area where one would not be firing heavily without bounce. It will happen on laning. I think this controlled bounce may be a good thing. It gives it to those who are going to use it anyways, but makes it controllable - as in high debounce settings for the first four shots (like in a bunker move) and lower debounce settings for laning. The best of both worlds to me. Funny...scream at a field owern once.. I seem to recall the last person screaming at me at my shop being removed from the property... but hey, screaming works.

[LittlePaintballBoy]

If you ask me, controlled bounce like this is better than uncontrolled bounce, and I think SP was smart to go with this instead of an all out bouncy board. Good move IMO.

[LaW]

[ilikePB]

Good response, lol.

[matt-o]

its just ramping in a different form

[Lohman446]

Or.. its just hybrid in a different form, you're call.

[ilikePB]

Or it's just bounce in a different form...

[than205]

It won't be when the insurance companies get a clue. I swear if I get lit up by some idiot using a marker with heavy bounce/rebound/whatever, I'll be screaming at the field owner to kick said idiot off, or I'll be complaining to the fields insurance carrier.

Honestly, as a ref, I'd be happier if you took it to the industry/manufacturers.
I'm tired of tippy RT's, cheater boards, DM4's, Impulses and anything else that causes things to get out of hand. I tired of saving someone's *** when they should have the common sense to not light someone up. (Ya know, golden rule kinda crap)
I honestly believe if you need to cheat like that then you have some sort of deficiency that plastic surgery may help. 1-3 is hits fine, but when you start getting to 5 and up.

I know all you 'men' are saying "5 hits, that's nothing", but next time you light up that old school player with the Prolite (who's there for the fun of it). And he comes bearing down on your butt for some retribution I may not jump in the middle of that for you.

Taking it to the insurance industry will just shut down the reputable fields. Ya know, the one's that actually care if you have a safe time. There are too few insurance companies, and getting fewer as time goes by. The manufacturers need to go back to the arrangements that were made. And players need to learn some trigger control.

[Tyger]

Something to think about in all this.

Unless they've been updated, and I don't believe they have, the ASTM F1776-97 standard for goggles is as follows :

ASTM standards : (American Society of Testing Materials) The ASTM has provided two tests for all paintball specific goggles, all current lenses adhere to these tests. Lens to frame : A lens must not gap or fall from the goggle frame. This is tested at 1.5 meters and below, paintball passes through chrony at 300 FPS. The lens must not break or crack at 400 FPS at 1.5 M and below. Test given : 4 shots with 3 second intervals in 4 places on the lense.

These were written in 1998 or so, and were not written for an ROF like we have today.

From a usenet post circa 1998 :

These rules are in addition to the NPPL Rules at World Cup:

A semi automatic paintball marker is one in which one paintball is ejected during each firing cycle. Each such firing cycle must include an intentional pull by the finger of the player by an exertion of force and a release of force on the trigger by the player's finger. The trigger cycle includes both the pull to activate and release to reset actions. All such semi automatic paintball markers are permitted to be used at the World Cup.

Any marker that in any way enhances the number of paintballs ejected during a firing cycle, must be limited to ejecting no more than 8.75 paintballs per second. Such markers that are not full autos will be permitted for use at the World Cup. Full Autos are not permitted. All paintball markers must be gravity fed.

Just think about that the next time you see someone get ripped 10+ times in the goggles.

-Tyger