The end of Triggernomics

[Destructo6]

That's terrible.

But how can they treat an air powered anything as a firearm, since there is no fire involved? Or is it a case that German authorities greatly restrict any object that is capable of launching a projectile?

At any rate, do contact a lawyer and probably the US embassy. I trust they itemized everything they seized...

[LaW]

That's terrible.

But how can they treat an air powered anything as a firearm, since there is no fire involved? Or is it a case that German authorities greatly restrict any object that is capable of launching a projectile?

At any rate, do contact a lawyer and probably the US embassy. I trust they itemized everything they seized...

Well technically a paintball marker fits the definition of a gun which can include firearms but not limited to...

Despite what people think, a paintball marker is a weapon and put in the wrong hands can be dangerous. Maybe not fatal but it can cause serious injury.


As for the situation, It is unfortunate. I hope that everything can be taken care of in the future and the situation will be resolved.

[ScatterPlot]

^^^^^
That Embassy thing sounds like a good idea. What someone else said earlier about the Disease with the giving it to a friend might be a good idea. Just give it to them as a gift, or sell it for some trivial amount. Just make sure your friend will sell it back

[Maghog]

They go by the amount of force a projectile carries when fired. In the case of paintball, anything shooting over 214 fps carries enough power to be considered a firearm. Velocity adjustments used to be locked into place here so you couldn't go over. That seems to have stopped, but the 214 limit is enforced at all legal playing fields here.
This is really the biggest reason why I don't play over here. Seriously, set your gun at 214 and play a round. You can actually dodge the balls before they get to you!
Paintball is growing in popularity here, but they watch it carefully. Just last week, five American youths were found guilty of joy riding and shooting eight people. When asked why, they said they were bored.
This stuff happens in the U.S. a lot, and little gets done about it. Over here things like that could have serious repurcussions. A few more incidents like that and paintball could be gone.
They are ruthless when it comes to that, as well as my stuff. They don't care if I've got 15 year old collectors items, or about art work or about my financial loss. They follow the law, and consider it my duty to be up to date on any law changes (such as the mailing thing)
So now they are apparently going to give all this stuff to a weapons expert who will look at twenty different pneumatic cylinders, regulators, three ways, gun housings, springs, o-rings and such to determine whether there is a fully assembled illegal weapon in there.
I have this vision of an e mag with a gen-x regulator screwed in where the valve goes, and some cocker pneumatics stuck inside the battery pack somehow.
I think I'm getting an ulcer.

[felony]

I have this vision of an e mag with a gen-x regulator screwed in where the valve goes, and some cocker pneumatics stuck inside the battery pack somehow.
I think I'm getting an ulcer.

While that is funny to think about, i do agree that you are right on your way to having an ulcer.. lol

I am sure you know everyone appreciates your work and wishes you the best of luck.

[50 cal]

Are you military stationed in Germany? If so, the JAG office can help. Even Provost Marshal's office can get the ball rolling in some fashion.

[Duck Hunt]

MagHog, I'm so sorry to hear about this. I loved your triggers, though never having touched one, and your artistic ability to make a marker a true work of art. Its a shame whenever an artistic can't express himself. I recently aquired a horrible computer virus that almost ended my computer. I have many MANY photos I've taken over the years of family and loved ones and my so called "art" and I couldn't fathom loosing them. I fortunetly recovered and I wish you the best of luck, you'll be in all of our thoughts!!

Sean

[VR4SL]

I think all of you guys in the USA should take this as a lesson- watch out who you vote for. If you dont think the Democrats, Liberals, and Anti-Gun-Nuts in this country wouldnt LOVE to get a Gov't going here like Germany has, you have got another thing coming. If you CARE about your right to bear arms -of ANY type- you had better decide what side of the fence you sit on.

Dont take this as a political jest......

Well, better yet, please do. Damn democrats (Hypocrites), Liberals (socialists), Anti-Gun-Nuts (Just plain morons).

[SpecialBlend2786]

Dan, your work was pure class. I remember staring at your artwork for hours, just following the intricate lines. I'm so sorry about what happened, hopefully it all works out

[Maghog]

I don't think it's fair to try to use this thread as a political platform to try and scare people into voting one way or another. There are laws in America just as there are in Germany, obey them and you'll be fine. When it comes to guns, America is the most liberal country in the world, and Germany is very conservative.
I have never owned a firearm in my life, I don't have a problem with anyone having one if they want to, but I just never needed one. Now I'm being seen as a firearm owner, possessing illegal weapons which I've always viewed as sports equipment for the past fifteen years. I always saw a difference between a real gun and a paintgun, the German government sees it differently and is holding me to the letter of the law as they should.
I think this situation should shed light on all laws related to our sport and firearms in general. Whether you are in America, Europe, Asia or Antartica, inform yourself as to your rights and priveleges as well as what kind of restrictions there are so that nothing like this can happen to you....and vote for the person who you feel best represents your own personal views.
Dan

[openboater]

Hang in there, we're praying for you.

Be honest with them. Emphasize the art work.

Hopefully they will work with you too.

[yakitori]

nuke em!

ignorance

[lord1234]

maghog...if you are a US Citizen you should consider contacting the US Embassy/Consulate in germany. They may be able to help you out.

--Lord1234

[Vendetta]

I think you should not call this stuff paintball gear. You should call it what it is, art. These are sculptures and you are an artist. I don't know what kind of protection this might have, but I know that Europe is much more liberal in term of what is art, and protection for artists. See if there are any arts organizations that may be able to help you.

[Muzikman]

Problem is not everything they took is "art".