interesting politics at a local tournament

[Lohman446]

what makes everything up to there fine? people were using modes of fire not allowed in tournament paintball. if it is against the rules pull the player, plain and simple

Because, the rules were changed in the captains meeting to allow alternate modes of fire. I don't care what PSP and NPPL do when Im not at a PSP or NPPL tournament. I use a clear HALO - a noticeable viiolation of NPPL rules - its allowed everywhere else. PSP and NPPL are not gods, while there rules may serve as a basline I'm fine with changes to those rules stated and agreed up on before playing (and playing is agreeing).

[Manderson666]

magmonkey, where was the field? i know there was one around here this past weekend too

[LudavicoSoldier]

Someone at Fox4 this Saturday was almost certaintly using a ramping board in his Trix. Granted, he was only playing against experienced players (not n00b mowing), and he still got shot out...

I remember quite clearly what my Turbo Glacier Shocker sounded like when turbo kicked in, and this sounded much the same, only alot faster.

On the subject of P&L, Mike is one of the largest, if not THE largest paint distributor in MA, and he still charges $100 A FREAKING CASE AT HIS FIELD(s)!?!? Talk about money grubbing tools...

[slade]

Were you playing in the Fox 4 Tourny? They were checking for ramping markers after someone got bonus balled 4-5 times after calling himself out and pulled him when the marker ramped for the ref.

Fox4 is not going to allow ramping markers at any tournies unless it is officially acknowledged in the official PSP rules here.

nope, it was at a scenario . my first and last one. ive never played in a tourney before, unless you count AONE (but i hope to sometime soon!).

[Sac]

when i go to practice everyone has nerve boards or other ramping stuff, and i still manage to play against it ok, sure its not fun getting overshot but you get used to it.

[Wheelman]

Man I heard about those guy up here too, some of the guys at splatz were talking about how they don't plan on attending another one of there tourneys because of incompetence, can't say as I blame them

[trains are bad]

I have always felt that electros should not have been legal from the get go, because they are unenforcable. Letting someone use an electro is no different than letting them have finger adjustable turbo mode or velocity, and taking thier word for it that they will not change it. You can hide anything is software. Look at the morelock board, everything is adjustable through the trigger.

If it had been any other sport this would have been recognized and electros limited to some 'open' class where full auto is allowed.

It is rediculus, and another example of why paindball is a joke.

[tony3]

Someone at Fox4 this Saturday was almost certaintly using a ramping board in his Trix. Granted, he was only playing against experienced players (not n00b mowing), and he still got shot out...

Do you think people with ramping guns have some force field that paintballs bounce off of and they can never get out?

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[CodeMA]

Ok, I really dont have a big issue with ramp/bounce, do I board? No... but do I see it as something that should be shunned from the sport? No

The same volume of paint is going to be put through a gun, bounce/ramp just makes it easier...an edge... Should it be limited to a somewhat natrual speed that CAN be pulled legitly, well ya, that makes it fair for everyone essentually, namely now that the technology is widely available... The NXL did right IMO... If you think someone with any of the modern electros cant put a good 6 balls on you as he runs past you legitly, just the same as anyone with a ramp board who most likely wont get it to kick in as he goes past you anyway, if he does its going to limited...your wrong, its not hard when your adrenilins pumping...or as in a lot of cases you just want to be an arse about it and bonus ball someone, which is the real problem, not the technology...

Someone getting hurt? I dont really think so... a few extra welts, sure, but a few extra balls wont kill ya, unless your lense fails, which is the only thing I can see happening... anything over 10 balls point blank from one gun will most likely raise an eye and somethings going to happen to the guy with the offending action... anything up to that is fair game IMO, and Im not gonna be too ticked it It happens to me... I understand adreniline and the cool factor...sure... but I also know If hes intentinally being a d1ck, I will make sure hes givin some extra love too... nothing like stickin some punk behind the ear a few times... which IMO hurts a hellva lot more then any ammount of bonusballing...

[Lohman446]

If it had been any other sport this would have been recognized and electros limited to some 'open' class where full auto is allowed.
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Agreed.

Ok, I really dont have a big issue with ramp/bounce, do I board? No... but do I see it as something that should be shunned from the sport? No... ...Should it be limited to a somewhat natrual speed that CAN be pulled legitly, well ya, that makes it fair for everyone essentually, namely now that the technology is widely available... The NXL did right IMO

Agreed... to some extent - except I have them. Both my Shockers have rebound boards in them and I use them (although only after given express permission where Im at)

How can I agree with both of these - Train is right. There is no reason that a new player should be expected to come in and play with ramping markers at a competetive level. Come to think of it new player should not be subjected to the dictates of semi-autos, even mechanicals. I agree with classing paintball... the problem is we dont have enough players to class. Lets say I want to go race cars, I don't start in NASCAR or with NASCAR equipment.
What I would like to see

Limited (or stock) class: Limited paint/limited action (ie pump)/ or some such thing to level downward the field some in terms of paint in the air

Advanced: Not limited paint, no ramping, no bounce.

Open: YOu control your marker, no more than a limited number of breaks on target, anything goes.

Of course I would like to see Rookie / Novice / Open skill divisions in these, maybe just the first to, maybe open is just open.

Problem, at least around here, we don't have enough players willign to play Limited... and I think rules should be, you get caught cheating (equipment) in Advanced once, you always play Open.

[LudavicoSoldier]

Do you think people with ramping guns have some force field that paintballs bounce off of and they can never get out?

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Yes yes...the paint force field...pure 0wnage!

[tony3]

I'm not agg enough for one