Need some Input from AO - New Rail, Pics, Etc . . .

[CoolHand]

OK guys, I've been working on this rail for quite a while now. I'm calling it the Gamma (Alpha, Gamma, Delta would be next, etc. . . . . I like greek letters).

Anyway, here is where your input comes in.

I'd like to see how many folks would be interested in these rails. They will be cut from 6061 T-6 Alum billet, not an extrusion. No final price yet, but I know they won't sell if they are over $100 a piece, so obviously under that. They will be higher than the Alphas though, guaranteed. Estimated weight is ~4oz. Uses RTP sears. Should fit an EMag. Dimension wise, it comes out flush with the back of the valve (the valve does not hang out the back at all), and should end up extending the same angle as the front of the ULE body on out the front. It will be flush at the bottom of the body, and then extend forward at the same angle (so its longer than a stock RTP rail, by about an inch).

This is a go/no-go thing. The design is done, so if you don't like it, vote that way, and let me know why you don't like it. (anyone who simply posts that it doesn't "flow" well will be shot on the spot, and/or have a rabit wombat put down their shorts)

Here are the pics:













Also, I'm making the poll public, so I can see who voted how, and ask about what people don't like.

Thanks for looking.

[Wheelman]

Let me be the first to vote for......Sweeeeeeeet

[CoolHand]

Let me be the first to vote for......Sweeeeeeeet

That's what I'd hoped you'd say.

Here's to hoping most folks feel the same way.

Thanks for looking.

[CoolHand]

lbonettosd - What didn't you like? (Not gonna get mad or anything, I just like feedback.)

Thanks for looking.

[chairman_mao]

I'm not real hot on it. The shape is ok, very similar to the rail Tuna just released as well as Rouge's and the standard AGD rail. Also I personally don't like the spaces that are milled in between the flairs and the rail body. It's just more places for paint to collect and what not.

My thoughts on the shape may change with seeing it placed with a body. I sometimes have a hard time visualizing . My other main concern is tolerances. It sounds like you are not using AGD parts to constuct this, which is fine, but I know that there have been many problems with fabricated parts that are not AGD based (e.g. the IT bodies). This would be a major deterant for me from purchasing htis product.

[lautt]

i love the holes in it

[CoolHand]

I'm not real hot on it. The shape is ok, very similar to the rail Tuna just released as well as Rouge's and the standard AGD rail. Also I personally don't like the spaces that are milled in between the flairs and the rail body. It's just more places for paint to collect and what not.

My thoughts on the shape may change with seeing it placed with a body. I sometimes have a hard time visualizing . My other main concern is tolerances. It sounds like you are not using AGD parts to constuct this, which is fine, but I know that there have been many problems with fabricated parts that are not AGD based (e.g. the IT bodies). This would be a major deterant for me from purchasing htis product.

OK, I'm gonna get this one out of the way early on.

ANY decent machinist can hold the tolerances necessary to make a mag work correctly. AGD does not do their own machine work, so obviously its not some mo-jo that Tom has, its just the skills of a decent machinist. That said, like always, anything I manufacture comes with our Lifetime Warranty.

Now, no more talk of bad tolerances. Stigmas are hard to erase, especially when they aren't earned. My stuff has always been close tolerance, and barring any unforseen shenaniganns from the anodizer or the like, they will continue to be. If we do ever have a problem, that's what the warranty is there for.

You won't need it though.

[Burphel]

I actually really like the milled out wings. From a scenario player standpoint, it gives you something to run zip ties to if you can't find a Weaver mount for something you want on your Tac-one. Could also be good for those who want slings.

Or you could just use it with a ULE body and let it just look cool.

Only real downside I see is having the weight-reduction cuts to the middle go all the way through the body. I dislike the idea of unnecessary openings into the innards of the gun.

[atm743]

very very nice if it fits an e-mag for sure when do you know when they will be coming out?? and will i be able to send in my own rail for you to mill or do you have to buy the hole new one?? ill give it a B+ but i think that you should do some milling were the valve rests like your alpha rails for stock mags. but i am looking in to buying one after seeing the pics lmk if you will be able to let us send in e-mag rails then you can mill em?? thanks

[Big'n slo]

I like the overall shape and design, I too dislike the through cuts on the wings.
Would it be possible to lengthen the rear of the rail past the bottom of the valve and add a built in D-ring shape? Basically a built in snatch grip,



Basically offers something the others don't.

[Magz_rule]

Would i be able to put on my rogue 15* Vertical adapter on this or no?

[tony3]

Looks just like tuna's double winged rail.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I like it. It gives me a laid back vibe. Most mag products look " in your face!", but this is something different. Very nice.

[jwalker87]

i really like the cuts on the wings. However, I don't think they should go all the way through. Maybe a trough-like thing on the top and bottom of the wings, if you know what I mean. I like the overall design though! very sexxxy!

[DiSoRdeR]

I like every thing about it, especially the cuts through the wings I will have a job in a couple of weeks, so I will definitly have to pick one up Do you know when they will be available any time soon?