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  • CoolHand
    Logic Industries LLC
    • Jan 2003
    • 3769

    #1

    Next Question - Another Rail, More Pics, Etc.

    This is the brother to one you guys just saw. I'm calling it the Omicron (still greek letters ) Rail.

    Same basic shape, but the wings get the sawtooth treatment.

    Again, need some feedback. Go/No-Go Still an RTP sear, still fits an EMag, still got the lifetime warranty, etc, etc.

    This one will weigh in at ~4.5 ozs, just a fuzz heavier (but not enough to notice, and still less than half the weight of a stock RTP rail, while being physically bigger)

    Pics:















    Enjoy.

    Bring on the feedback.
    47
    Do them both.
    0%
    17
    Just do the first one. (Gamma)
    0%
    13
    Just do this one. (Omicron)
    0%
    8
    Don't do either one.
    0%
    2
    Huh?!?
    0%
    7
    Ryan Shanks
    Logic Industries LLC
  • t33kyboy
    Member #10,261
    • Jan 2004
    • 942

    #2
    I think it looks... well, different.

    oh, and i liked the first one better, this ones to extreme

    quikkk and i win.

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    • SpecialBlend2786
      Registered User
      • Jun 2003
      • 4023

      #3
      SWEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!

      i'd buy one

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      • SpecialBlend2786
        Registered User
        • Jun 2003
        • 4023

        #4
        So Ryan am I correct when I assume that the CnC machine is up and running now?

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        • TheFlamingKoosh
          I'm No Longer On Fire
          • Mar 2002
          • 1710

          #5
          Originally posted by RogueFactor
          Just a heads-up so you dont go thinking you were copied...There is a rail VERY similar to the CAD of the Omicron already in the works.

          Aside from the nose of your rail(which is absolutely an original design of yours), and how many *saw teeth* there are, the external aesthetics of the rails will be hardly indistinguishable.

          Imagine a RogueRail with front wing/gills....not a leap of a design jump.

          I dont want you to go thinking I was ripping your design off when the rail shows up.

          Well technically you both ripped off the Omega rail, so I guess its even.

          With Tuna, Rogue, and Coolhand all offering no-holes rails, is this the new trend from AGD giving the "raw" rails to the dealors first?
          Hey Zero, how much did that Chipley cost ya?

          Originally said by Boggerman When I got married I thought it would go down too... The insurance, not the wife.

          FRUITCAT!!

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          • SpecialBlend2786
            Registered User
            • Jun 2003
            • 4023

            #6
            Originally posted by RogueFactor
            Imagine a RogueRail with front wing/gills....not a leap of a design jump.
            yesh. I absolutly love the look of my Roguerail....maybe thats why i like this design

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            • txrabbit
              Registered User
              • Jun 2004
              • 433

              #7
              is nice, but i'd rather have a splinter rail.


              VOOODOOO!!!

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              • CoolHand
                Logic Industries LLC
                • Jan 2003
                • 3769

                #8
                Originally posted by RogueFactor
                Just a heads-up so you dont go thinking you were copied...There is a rail VERY similar to the CAD of the Omicron already in the works.

                Aside from the nose of your rail(which is absolutely an original design of yours), and how many *saw teeth* there are, the external aesthetics of the rails will be hardly indistinguishable.

                Imagine a RogueRail with front wing/gills....not a leap of a design jump.

                I dont want you to go thinking I was ripping your design off when the rail shows up.
                Yeah, I know it. Its not like I spent eons developing the gill idea, it is a direct port of the Omega style to an RTP platform.

                I'm not sure where Rogue and Tuna got their stock, but mine would have been done from scratch. AGD would have never touched these parts.

                However, as it looks like I just stepped into a 1980's coldwar-esce arms race, revolving around the no holes RTP rail, I think I will side with discretion (being the better part of valor) and bow out.

                This pie is only so big, and I'm gonna show up to the Bar-B-Q about six weeks late (being as these other two guys magically have bar stock that I was never made aware of, they've got actual metal parts in hand, while I've just got a snazzy CAD solid. Oh well, ya snooze, ya loose). Doesn't bode well for strong sales numbers, and since I'd have to have them done out of house, it becomes less attractive still (good sized out lay of capital for stock that may or may not sell).

                I think I'm gonna just do another batch of 50 vert frames, and maybe a run of 50 Alphas, and see how those sell.

                At least I got to put them out and hear the OOO's and Ahhh's before the idea perished.

                Later
                Ryan Shanks
                Logic Industries LLC

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                • Threewheeler
                  Registered User
                  • May 2001
                  • 189

                  #9
                  Again, Very very nice. Only excuse I can see to not do both is that one will take sales from the other.... But you'll get both sides of the coin with both.
                  -E-Mag
                  -WGP Sniper II

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                  • shartley
                    paintball player
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 9169

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CoolHand
                    Yeah, I know it. Its not like I spent eons developing the gill idea, it is a direct port of the Omega style to an RTP platform.

                    I'm not sure where Rogue and Tuna got their stock, but mine would have been done from scratch. AGD would have never touched these parts.

                    However, as it looks like I just stepped into a 1980's coldwar-esce arms race, revolving around the no holes RTP rail, I think I will side with discretion (being the better part of valor) and bow out.

                    This pie is only so big, and I'm gonna show up to the Bar-B-Q about six weeks late (being as these other two guys magically have bar stock that I was never made aware of, they've got actual metal parts in hand, while I've just got a snazzy CAD solid. Oh well, ya snooze, ya loose). Doesn't bode well for strong sales numbers, and since I'd have to have them done out of house, it becomes less attractive still (good sized out lay of capital for stock that may or may not sell).

                    I think I'm gonna just do another batch of 50 vert frames, and maybe a run of 50 Alphas, and see how those sell.

                    At least I got to put them out and hear the OOO's and Ahhh's before the idea perished.

                    Later
                    Have you thought of doing something similar for other brands of markers? Maybe the AGD market is not the most ideal place to put so much effort.

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                    • adt501
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 140

                      #11
                      oooo a war. pick your sides now
                      "Even the Mona Lisa is falling apart" - Fight Club

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                      • staticdecay
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 52

                        #12
                        hmmmm

                        Can you imagine what it must be like to clean the grills after a game? Cottonswabs anyone?! I do like the design though. Great job!

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                        • DiSoRdeR
                          Pump enthusiast
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 1767

                          #13
                          Wow thats pretty crazy looking, I like it. I prefer the first one more, have a project I want to use it on I like both of them, and think they will sell very well.

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                          • wantamag
                            Rec Poster
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 5055

                            #14
                            i like this one ALOT better than the other ex since its the closest thing ive seen to an omega yet.

                            lookin good. if these come out il be saving for one(unles somone else make soemthing ebtter in the emantime)

                            yes and it is weird how all this new mag stuff just kinda popped outta nowhere but as mags hopefuly gain polularity and old mag users begin to upgrade thigns will start selling more.

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                            • CoolHand
                              Logic Industries LLC
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3769

                              #15
                              Originally posted by shartley
                              Have you thought of doing something similar for other brands of markers? Maybe the AGD market is not the most ideal place to put so much effort.
                              I agree.

                              That's why I've been quietly diversifing my product line.

                              We now do Mag frame, Imp frames, '03 Shocker/Nerve Frames, Mag Rails, and Pred II Installs in Imps, Shockers, Nerves, and any other marker I feel like tackling.

                              Also soon to debute is our Impulse body milling, and some new stuff for the mag too.

                              I'm still working on Mag stuff, but its not going to be the primary focus any more.

                              These rail designs would have done quite well, but I just happend to get dry gulched (that's redneck for surprised) by three other new rails at the same time, only farther along in production. (I must not have been paying attention, they caught me )

                              This is still a very tiny market, and I do not think that there is room enough for 5 or 6 $90-$100 rails in it. That is getting borderline on pointless (from a dealer's standpoint).

                              So, I bow out of this new fight, gather my troops, and focus on the parts I've got that sell reliably. Risk is fine, but it must be mitigated my clear thinking.

                              Like my dad says - "You gotta pick your fights." And this just ain't one of them.

                              Ryan Shanks
                              Logic Industries LLC

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