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  • Cougar
    i hate hurricanes...
    • Jun 2004
    • 134

    #16
    Originally posted by Lesta
    ... would a non-cheater board really affect the bps of your gun? Is there something I'm missing?
    Yes. It's called bounce.

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    • BD_Paintball
      UW-Whitewater Paintball
      • May 2003
      • 2268

      #17
      or ramping
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      • shaunyoung000
        I kill ya
        • Nov 2003
        • 676

        #18
        Hm... never really thought of this before......hmm....
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        Yeah, that's right!

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        • Vash-HT
          Registered User
          • Sep 2004
          • 66

          #19
          i hate how so many people in these forums automatically jump on the "every electro is a cheater gun" bandwagon, its really disgusting, then they go orgasm over a nice e-mag or x-mag. When i had my e-mag, i could make it go full auto very very easily, and you all know you can make an RT bounce like mad if you wanted to, the same thing with most electro guns out now. You can make them bounce if you want to, but only idiots do it.

          Btw, DM4 boards with an aftermarket chip like tadao have some of the best anti bounce on em you can get, 3 kids on my team have DM4s, one with tadao, none of their guns bounce at all. If you wanted to put a board that wouldnt bounce in a mag a DM4 board would be one of ur best choices, but since it runs at 9v it wouldnt work, a morlock would tho i believe.
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          • Trunnion
            Electric Mayhem
            • Mar 2001
            • 237

            #20
            i don't believe anyone here said "every electro is a cheater gun." adding extra balls once you reach a certain ROF or excessive bounce is pretty much cheating though. you're not actually doing the work, the marker is. that being said, i can bounce my emag in hybrid mode too, which is why i intend to remove the selector switch for tournies(if i can. haven't tried yet). and if you can't get your emag past 9 bps, you've got a problem somewhere, be it you or the marker. i can do 13 bps on mine, and one of my friends hit 15 bps with it no problem. i can see someone with quick fingers doing 17 or 18 on it.
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            • RTDynaflow
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              • Aug 2004
              • 320

              #21
              Originally posted by Vash-HT
              i hate how so many people in these forums automatically jump on the "every electro is a cheater gun" bandwagon, its really disgusting, then they go orgasm over a nice e-mag or x-mag. When i had my e-mag, i could make it go full auto very very easily, and you all know you can make an RT bounce like mad if you wanted to, the same thing with most electro guns out now. You can make them bounce if you want to, but only idiots do it.

              Btw, DM4 boards with an aftermarket chip like tadao have some of the best anti bounce on em you can get, 3 kids on my team have DM4s, one with tadao, none of their guns bounce at all. If you wanted to put a board that wouldnt bounce in a mag a DM4 board would be one of ur best choices, but since it runs at 9v it wouldnt work, a morlock would tho i believe.
              Actually, just because a board runs on 9volts and you have an 18v power suply, doesn't mean it won't work... getting your voltage down to 9 is the easy part. Making the DM4 board fit and work is the hard part.

              As far as the rest... why are the DM4s so much faster then the e-mag? I suppose with that board your fingers magically start to wiggle faster..

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              • BD_Paintball
                UW-Whitewater Paintball
                • May 2003
                • 2268

                #22
                or the trigger is shorter and lighter = easer to walk
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                • Enemy
                  aKa PROZAC
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1245

                  #23
                  the dm4s do have some wicked programing but if the board will fit in the grip then it may be possible to use it as long has your solenoid will fit in there too.. emags have massive soleniods and the board conforms around it thus the emags are out unless you get ult and replace the soleniod. now a hyper frame or the new devil vert frames are a big possiblity for a swap but any other frame would take to much work cuz they are made to thin to house a big enough soleniod to fire the gun!! yeah i tried to e frame a z grip but quickly learned that i needed the emags internals for everything else wouldnt be able to sit close enough to sear to trip it!
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                  • mag/cocker lover
                    Element *608*
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1295

                    #24
                    seriously, if you cant hit passed 9bps on an emag, you need to practice shooting. on my emag and sfl i can hit about 15-17bps, while my teammate can hit 20bps with his xmag.

                    *good way to walk a marker faster* wrap a rubber band around your pointer and middle finger and slowly stretch them away from each other(like walking a trigger) then move them back the other way. do this until your arm/hands hurts so much that you cant do it anymore, repeat using other hand. do this daily when sitting in school or watching tv and youll be shooting fast in no time.


                    *good way to shoot a mech faster*you can build up strength in your fingers by holding a 20oz soda bottle at top with cap held by your thumb. using whatever finger you shoot with, continually depress the top of the bottle, the bottle gives some resistance and will help you build strength


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                    • xXhAppyAznXx
                      Ken, Eagle Scout
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 2473

                      #25
                      Guys, don't trail off the topic if you can't answer the question. Who cares if he wants to put a "cheater board" in his gun. I have been curious about this too. I been wanting to know if you could put a different board into the Emags. So free bump on this.


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                      • Vash-HT
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 66

                        #26
                        exactly, and where do you get the idea that DM4s are "so much faster"?

                        they are a little faster, i believe the trigger on a DM4 is much better than the emag's trigger, making it easier to walk.

                        Anyway, RTDynaflow, You're making a huge assumption that a DM4 makes people automatically shoot faster, Im sure there are a number of people who can walk their emag/xmag faster than they could on a DM4. Btw, i can shoot several guns faster than i can DM4s, i hate their triggers and id never waste my money buying one. Stop making up things like how come DM4s are faster, and crap like that, e-mags and x-mags are just as fast, it all depends on which trigger you like better.
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                        • AnArchist_1944
                          Sex-E-Mag
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 360

                          #27
                          If i can get some one to host my vid i will show you my astonishing 9bps nothing i do with the trigger will get it over that ntm that iam not slow at walking i have hit some guns over 18+ with no bounce and i dont want a cheater board i just want a hella fast gun.
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                          • nastymag
                            XPSL D2/ Nppl D2
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 924

                            #28
                            what software do you have ?

                            because i can easily do 10-11 bps on any electro marker ( as long as the cap is not lower then that). with my Xmag i can hit like 14-15 ..im not the fastest
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                            • AnArchist_1944
                              Sex-E-Mag
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 360

                              #29
                              3.2 and for the love of god i cant or nobody i know can hit above 9bps.

                              my shot buffer is at 4 and my bps cap is 20.
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                              • Lohman446
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                                • Jun 2003
                                • 9315

                                #30
                                Sell your e-mag, buy a gun you can shoot faster.. simple answer
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