Chronoing electroframe RT

[Joni]

How would you do to chrono a hyperframe or devilmag? You cant hold the sear back, release and then fire with that kind of frame. Any ideas?

[Doobie]

You can't really do the RT chrono process. Since we know that the RT may climb as much as 10fps during rapid fire, I chrono around 275-280 to be sure I don't exceedd the 300fps limit. I have heard youu can rip off a string real fast and then let the last shot go over the chrono to get an idea. I can't vouch for the accuracy of that though. If someone out there has a chrono that can record the FPS of each individual ball in a string, they could test that theory out.


ANYONE?

[Halliday]

I know the Hyperframe has a manual sear release by the strip screw. Maybe that would work?

[Joni]

Isn't that just a sear safety, like the emag has? That wouldn't really help

[CaliMagFan]

shooting approximately 3 bps will leave you with the same result, and most good chronos will be able to read all 3 shot speeds.... i wondered about the same thing, and because i shoot mech, i was able to compare speeds while doing both the RT chrono procedure and simulating an electro by just shooting over the chrono at a certain rate...

the speed increase is about the heated gas in the valve, and that it continues to increase in pressure after its in teh valve chamber waiting to be fired... from my observations 1/3 of a second is not enough time for the heat in the valve to dissapate, so the last shot off a string of 3 is pretty much the same FPS as one while doing the RT procedure....

joni... you have a mech.... try for yourself and compare your results with mine, i'd be interested in seeing if my marker is an isolated case...


-kyro

[Ohms Law]

There is a hole in the Hyperframe that allows you to manually depress the sear and fire the gun. Just use the same allen wrench you use to set the velocity, but put it in hole and press the sear and hold it. Then repeat. This is the same as the AGD recommended chrono procedure.

[Joni]

shooting approximately 3 bps will leave you with the same result, and most good chronos will be able to read all 3 shot speeds.... i wondered about the same thing, and because i shoot mech, i was able to compare speeds while doing both the RT chrono procedure and simulating an electro by just shooting over the chrono at a certain rate...

the speed increase is about the heated gas in the valve, and that it continues to increase in pressure after its in teh valve chamber waiting to be fired... from my observations 1/3 of a second is not enough time for the heat in the valve to dissapate, so the last shot off a string of 3 is pretty much the same FPS as one while doing the RT procedure....

joni... you have a mech.... try for yourself and compare your results with mine, i'd be interested in seeing if my marker is an isolated case...


-kyro

I'll try that the next time I go to a chrono. Might be some time...my frame is away on milling to accept hyperframe internals (hence the question)

[CaliMagFan]

you sly fox.. i might have to follow suit

[warbeak2099]

Would you be able to give us a price on that conversion you're having done? If the guy doesn't want to let a lot of people know could you pm me about it? I've been looking at an electro vert frame for mags that is coming out in a while and will cost around $250 but if this conversion to my Logic frame costs less I'll go that route. Thanks.

[Joni]

When I'm ready I'll post a step by step thread with all the info and pics...Might make people happy =)

[cledford]

[Doobie]

Well thought out post Cledford...I wonder what TK has to say on the matter? May have to ask him at AO SEIII if he doesn't weigh in here.

[dukduk]

where do u get this hyperframe? will it work with the classic RT?

[RRfireblade]

It seems to be less of an issue with the aluminum valves.

But...

I also shoot a short string and then drop my barrel on big red for the last shot.Then I give 5 fps as a buffer.