Idiotic use of markers and the fatality involved

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  • webmstrk9
    Registered User
    • Sep 2004
    • 268

    #16
    Ok, all of us agree the kids shouldn't have been doing that. Most agree that the guy shouldnt have taken the actions he did. But keep in mind, yesterday was Halloween, having a large number of children, infants, and adults walking around. No one really knows if the guy did it on purchase, or the kid pointed the marker at the guy, the presumption the kid was in the back of the suburban shooting from the rear window.

    We have the opportunity to view this in hindsite but in all reality the man made a decision that has tarnished his life.

    Ask yourself this....if you were put in the same situation as that man, would you do what he did? Could you live with yourself knowing you took a teen's life?

    Not to be harsh on anyone here with their answers...my thoughts sway back and forth with this issue. I dont know either or saw this issue, it was something to think about.

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    • SlartyBartFast
      The Flying Scotsman
      • Jun 2002
      • 2940

      #17
      Originally posted by hardr0ck68
      I totally dont get you guys that say he got what he deserved...
      Do you "deserve" to get away with it? It's not about fairness, or giving the dink a break, or whether he "deserved it".

      They were however at fault and responsible for their actions. Ultimately, fate held them accountable for their actions.

      While I hate to see such a useless waste of life for such a pathetic exercise, I have a hard time feeling particularily sorry for anyone involved.

      Is that "harsh"? No. It's reality. Reality has the nasty habit of biting your head off when you least expect it. Life is all about earning the right lessons before something truly monumental goes wrong. Unfortunately, in this case, neither the car load of buffoons with the paintball markers not the testosterone pumped nimrod pursuing them had figured it out yet.

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      • Destructo6
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        • Apr 2004
        • 549

        #18
        The kids went out looking for an incident. They found one and it got the better of them.
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        • Bob_da_Splatman
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          • Aug 2004
          • 250

          #19
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          • kenndogg
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            • May 2003
            • 881

            #20
            Originally posted by Thermus
            I'll go ahead and say the kids deserved it.
            I concur


            Originally posted by Destructo6
            The kids went out looking for an incident. They found one and it got the better of them.
            Couldn't of said it better myself
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            • Barfly
              You're out of your element
              • Nov 2003
              • 406

              #21
              What is shooting cars with a paintball gun? At the most a misdemeanor.

              The guy murdered one of the kids, he is a felon and he is going to jail or going to fry for being a vigilante dumb ****.

              And for all your people that think the kids deserved, just look back at your teenage years, I am sure you did crap that was just as bad. I had some kids through apples into my convertable and sprayed **** all over the place, I knew who it was, so did I grab my mak-90 and shoot them or run them over? No, I told them to clean the crap up, the next day when they were back in their apartment.
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              • mag/cocker lover
                Element *608*
                • Jul 2003
                • 1295

                #22
                shooting at cars may be a misdemeanor, however, the article states that they shot at people too.

                in the realm of law enforcement, pball markers are guns. therefore they must be treated as such in vehicles etc. now from what i know of texas law, firearms can be in the open of a car in texas, however cannot be loaded(and minors probably cant have them in cars either). obviously, if they were firing on people, then they were breaking this law. firing on unknowing people should be an assault charge at least.

                Originally posted by Barfly
                What is shooting cars with a paintball gun? At the most a misdemeanor.

                The guy murdered one of the kids, he is a felon and he is going to jail or going to fry for being a vigilante dumb ****.

                And for all your people that think the kids deserved, just look back at your teenage years, I am sure you did crap that was just as bad. I had some kids through apples into my convertable and sprayed **** all over the place, I knew who it was, so did I grab my mak-90 and shoot them or run them over? No, I told them to clean the crap up, the next day when they were back in their apartment.

                im sorry but throwing apples at a car, and firing projectiles at 300fps at people without proper protection are very different things. throwing apples may cause property damage, but paintballs can kill, or seriously injure someone.

                did that kid deserve to die? no, but the article doesnt even tell what exactly happend. who knows the kid driving couldve brake checked the older guy causeing the collision.

                Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
                Is that "harsh"? No. It's reality. Reality has the nasty habit of biting your head off when you least expect it. Life is all about earning the right lessons before something truly monumental goes wrong. Unfortunately, in this case, neither the car load of buffoons with the paintball markers not the testosterone pumped nimrod pursuing them had figured it out yet.
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                • RTDynaflow
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                  • Aug 2004
                  • 320

                  #23
                  Too bad the media bends the truth ... Like ^^^ said - it's hard to know what really happened or wether or not they were shooting at people. Or wether the guy was drunk... or if the kids caused the accident... I just find it unfortunate that all of this revovled around paintball and some parent may possibly deny their child the opportunity to play this great sport over such a thing. I hope the kids who did survive learn a lesson from this. Maybe 10 years from now they won't be doing the same thing agian, except with real firearms.

                  Such a senseless waste of lives saddens me.

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                  • Barfly
                    You're out of your element
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 406

                    #24
                    Some of the people that made really ignorant posts on here are just going to have to waite till they have a personal experience that changes their mind on the value of other people's life that they don't know.
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                    • billabongboy13j
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1468

                      #25
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                      • cledford
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                        • Feb 2001
                        • 1386

                        #26
                        Kid got what he deserved - it may not have been what he expected, but that was his own lack of forsight. I think the guy who rammed them may have been overboard - but he likely didn't intend to kill anyone either.

                        Maybe if the stupid kid had his seatbelt on he wouldn't have been ejected - wait, you can't wear a seatbelt and hang out of the car window shooting people - well I guess the kid was doubly at fault...

                        Sorry to harsh - but Darwin's laws cover this one...

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                        • laxguy3690
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 26

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mag/cocker lover
                          shooting at cars may be a misdemeanor, however, the article states that they shot at people too.

                          in the realm of law enforcement, pball markers are guns. therefore they must be treated as such in vehicles etc. now from what i know of texas law, firearms can be in the open of a car in texas, however cannot be loaded(and minors probably cant have them in cars either). obviously, if they were firing on people, then they were breaking this law. firing on unknowing people should be an assault charge at least.




                          im sorry but throwing apples at a car, and firing projectiles at 300fps at people without proper protection are very different things. throwing apples may cause property damage, but paintballs can kill, or seriously injure someone.

                          did that kid deserve to die? no, but the article doesnt even tell what exactly happend. who knows the kid driving couldve brake checked the older guy causeing the collision.



                          exactly



                          to comment about the apples, if your driving along and someone throws an apple in your window, im pretty sure it would kill you a little quicker than a small nickel sized gelatin paint filled ball

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                          • Kaiser Bob
                            Paintball Degenerate
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 1157

                            #28
                            That day a kid got run over by some drunk guy driving a truck and 2 guys who were helping their kids go trick or treating jumped in their cars and gave chase to get the guy off the road and call the cops. Thats probably what this guy was trying to do with the kids, but got into a wreck instead. As far as idiotic use of markers goes, it depends. If a kid just picked up something from walmart and did this, I would attribute it to underage irresponsibility and wouldent say they deserve what they got if they got killed. However, a paintballer knows what damage their markers are capable of and all the safety precautions required to play, so if a paintballer decides to go out and shoot unprotected innocents, then the Darwin rule applies to whatever consequences fall on them.
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                            • SlartyBartFast
                              The Flying Scotsman
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 2940

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Barfly
                              What is shooting cars with a paintball gun? At the most a misdemeanor.
                              But,

                              Fleeing the scene and driving at speeds capable of flipping a vehicle is a criminal offense. Is it not?

                              Those kids endangered the public when they decided to flee at dangerous speeds. I'm more thankful that nobody else got hurt than I am saddened that the kid was killed or enraged that the idiot who pursued them took the law into his own hands.

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                              • Chris42050
                                Splatmaster Tech
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 567

                                #30
                                All you losers who think that kid deserves what he got think about all the stupid things you did when you were a kid. You are still alive aren't you. Write all those stupid things down and give me your address. I have a 9mm and some justice to serve.

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