AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
I agree...I like the feeling of having a heavy marker in my hand, with my SS tube I know I could run it over with a truck and have no repercussions (might be a slight exaggeration but hey you get the point)
Yeah, Shockers suck bad, that's how Dynasty and Philly Americans are the 2 best teams around shooting crappy guns. I like my Shocker better than any E Mag I've ever shot. Anyway, get what you like better.
If you really believe that quality has to be heavy then you should honestly stop posting.
haha......i hate myself for actually reading and considering your ignorant post
i didnt say quality has to be heavy...please use those reading skills (if you have them) before making posts...
i was making an observation. when people complain about markers being too heavy, its funny. in our lazy society it seems we have weaker people born every year. maybe its time to do some pushups instead playing on your xbox.
can you talk about quality and the shocker or timmy in the same sentence? no. e-mag, dm4, viking, quality? yes.
"Even the Mona Lisa is falling apart" - Fight Club
can you talk about quality and the shocker or timmy in the same sentence? no.
I really think that you have never owned either. The top pro teams in paintball use both these guns almost exclusively. If these guns were not quality then the amount of teams that use them would dwindle each year even if they are payed to use them. A good team cannot afford to let bad equipment get in their way. So why do the top teams still use Shockers and Timmys? Because they are awesome guns.
haha......i hate myself for actually reading and considering your ignorant post
i didnt say quality has to be heavy...please use those reading skills (if you have them) before making posts...
i was making an observation. when people complain about markers being too heavy, its funny. in our lazy society it seems we have weaker people born every year. maybe its time to do some pushups instead playing on your xbox.
can you talk about quality and the shocker or timmy in the same sentence? no. e-mag, dm4, viking, quality? yes.
absolutely true, especially the part about our lazy society getting weaker, and the pushups instead of xbox.(not only are people getting weaker, but dumber as well)
in all seriousness, every timmy or shocker, or imp ive ever held or shot just felt cheap to me. they feel cheaply made and ive never liked the feel. not to say that mags are the only marker that feels quality made. any aka marker, trix, dm4, some cockers, feel quality made to me, probably because they are.
haha......i hate myself for actually reading and considering your ignorant post
i didnt say quality has to be heavy...please use those reading skills (if you have them) before making posts...
i was making an observation. when people complain about markers being too heavy, its funny. in our lazy society it seems we have weaker people born every year. maybe its time to do some pushups instead playing on your xbox.
can you talk about quality and the shocker or timmy in the same sentence? no. e-mag, dm4, viking, quality? yes.
This thread has revealed to me the ignorance that exsits in some of AO. Anything made by AGD is the best and SP stuff sucks no matter what. Well go to the real world, guess what, everyone thinks the opposite. Have fun in your little world where you can continue to tell yourselves that Mags are the best, while the rest of the paintball world knows better.
lol um who ever said that mags were the only guns and are the best? just because certain people dont like smart parts or decide to use smart parts in a comparison dose not make them ignorant and i still have yet to see where anyone here has said that mags are the best gun and everything else sucks, they are one of many good guns it alls comes down to what you like to shoot.
i use to own an old-school timmy and those things were pretty nasty. the nasty plastic grips and all. i played a few games with an 03 shocker, i thought it was ok, until it started leaking air down the barrel.
the shocker just felt fragile though. smart parts makes the most tempermental markers....they seem to break over the most petty garbage. and yes, i've my fair share of SP markers so i'm not just saying this stuff cause i don't like SP
I really think that you have never owned either. The top pro teams in paintball use both these guns almost exclusively. If these guns were not quality then the amount of teams that use them would dwindle each year even if they are payed to use them. A good team cannot afford to let bad equipment get in their way. So why do the top teams still use Shockers and Timmys? Because they are awesome guns.
lol...another ignorant poster. two in the same thread???
ive owned two shockers.....ilikepb, remember when i posted about my 2 shockers in an earlier thread, and you said my problems were user error, even though you didnt read my posts all the way through to make your judgement call?
ive also owned two timmys
and i know what teams use what guns, because i follow tourny ball extremely close, because thats all i play. as for the two teams you mentioned, they use shockers because a) they are ether a factory team (all americans) or be, they were payed very well and are under contract (dynasty). yes, dynasty can afford to let bad equipment get in their way, because they can get new shockers for every tournament! (heard from player's own lips)
and if your in that camp that believe that the gun makes the player, then i thank you dearly. cause it is players like you that drive our great game. the kind that buys the brand new, flame throwers and buys lots of paint to feed them. well, sir, you cant buy game. its great, going to the field every weekend and shooting the kids with paper routes that buy the new guns as they come out, the over hyped flame throwers.
yeah, ive owned a lot of guns. ive owned five smart parts guns, angels, led and lcd trixs, the timmys, a DM4. you know what? i still play better with my cocker, and prefer my cocker most of the time. i like my emag because i can flip it to mechanical on a win, and its very fast. its just a well thought out design.
back to the main topic of this thread, an emag would be an excellent choice. no need to come on and flame other people because they think the emag is not a good gun.
"Even the Mona Lisa is falling apart" - Fight Club
lol um who ever said that mags were the only guns and are the best? just because certain people dont like smart parts or decide to use smart parts in a comparison dose not make them ignorant and i still have yet to see where anyone here has said that mags are the best gun and everything else sucks, they are one of many good guns it alls comes down to what you like to shoot.
This thread has revealed to me the ignorance that exsits in some of AO. Anything made by AGD is the best and SP stuff sucks no matter what. Well go to the real world, guess what, everyone thinks the opposite. Have fun in your little world where you can continue to tell yourselves that Mags are the best, while the rest of the paintball world knows better.
nobody has said "sp sucks" one time in this thread
and no, not everyone thinks the opposite
the only people that think mags suck are usually ignorant or uninformed
sp has the potential to make great guns, but their quality control is horrible. if you deny this, then it is you who have never owned a smart parts gun
again, please read posts fully before posting, you just make yourself sound childish
"Even the Mona Lisa is falling apart" - Fight Club
lol...another ignorant poster. two in the same thread???
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as for the two teams you mentioned, they use shockers because a) they are ether a factory team (all americans) or be, they were payed very well and are under contract (dynasty). yes, dynasty can afford to let bad equipment get in their way, because they can get new shockers for every tournament! (heard from player's own lips)
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