05 speed or e2 karni

[matmc89]

Ok I have an 05 speed but im thinking about trading it for a karni with e2. Which would be better?

[teufelhunden]

Speed.

[68magOwner]

already told you, i like your speed, never been much of a cocker person, hated jaimals E-orracle (for the 10 min ive seen it work) but hey, whatever will make you happy

[magmanl337]

It's actually no ones opinion. Go to your local field, find someone with a karnivor, and try it out. The only thing u should ask people is if the e2 karni's ever break down or anything to that extent.

[adt501]

id stick with the speed. i personally dont like e cockers all that much, especially worr games

[matmc89]

ok looks like im sticking with the speed
thanks for your help

[gc82000]

OK what are you looking for.
Speed: they are about equal. YOU will not out shoot any of these guns
Trigger: the e2 will win on the shorter trigger but I know more guys who can reach a higher rate easier on the Speed.
Weight: Speed with a doubt
Effeciency: e2 actually
Maintainence: Speed



I am not going to go on looks or anything that will opinionated so I will leave that up to you. but go with the speed I have seen some die hard cocker boys switch to angels after shooting a speed.

[player4]

id stick with the speed. i personally dont like e cockers all that much, especially worr games

I don't like cockers in genral......but anyways I agree

[Fanatic]

68magowner!!!!
eh...where did you get your sig???
its freakin me out!!
its.....lookie like......me!!!
what the hell?

[Noise Under The Bed]

I own a karnivor, and only have one bad thing to say about it. When i played with the settings to speed it way up (out shot a halo) the spring in the inline reg collapsed. However after upgrading to a Macdev Galdi the problem has been solved. I am actually looking into a speed but will keep the karni. It is very fast very light, and all around awsome. By the way my Karni has the E1

[LeatherPants]

05 Speed.

I've owed 8 cockers. Anyone from the Cali AO meets would remember my E Orralce and the Pink E Orracle I built for my GF. Both of them ripped both of them were efficient. But I now own 0 cockers. That should tell you something.

I just pick up a 05 Speed at a cheap price and I was very impressed. There are not too many markers out of the box that impress me. The Speed ripps. It is faster out of the box (after you set it) than any of my cockers were.

As far as efficiency goes it's fine. With the Evolve kit you can get 2000+ off a 68/4500.

Also an E2 has nothing to do with efficiency. It's a combo of the parts on the cocker that does.

I used to tech cockers and honestly I just got tired of it.

Get the Speed. You will regret getting the cocker.

[rkjunior303]

holy old thread batman

[Archangel Zer0]

holy old thread batman

C'mon, it's only 4 months old.

[LeatherPants]

WTH i didn't eve notice that. Why was this thread up'd to confuse me.

[matmc89]

....Thanks for the reply..but ive been through 3 guns already since the speed.