The best Cocker ram?

[Ityl]

This post is so 1997.

I'd go with the Freeflow, never had any problems with them.

[afultz075]

I wouldn't go with an ebladed merlin... they're really nice guns, but the lightning bolt is a little heavy for an eblade, and I think the back block may be a bit chunky as well. It's very important to have very little cycling mass in e-cockers.

As far as a ram... the nexus with QEVs is the best. Aside from looks, the only thing separating it from the .44 ram is that the nexus uses different seals.

If you're on a budget, check out the Moody Paintball ram with QEVs.... I think you can get the ram and QEVs for like $45 total. Nice deal.

LPR doesn't matter a whole hell of a lot.... an eblade has eyes, so no worries about chopping. And having your LPR set somewhat high bumps up your cycling speed.

Actually, I don't think my Merlin is going to be any worse than other cockers as far as cycling mass, it's a P-block, and the Lightning bolt is delrin, so I wouldn't think it'd be a problem.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I was going to get a mech. merlin, but things fell through.

As far as rams go, as long as it has a very smooth stroke and your backblock setup is light, it shouldnt really matter. You'll be happy with any of the Rams people have mentioned. Get one and see how it goes.

[Steelrat]

I love that merlin. I too just bought a merlin:



The ANS mini ram is supposed to be pretty darn good. The .44 and the one sold by moody also seem nice. Palmer makes good stuff as well. I dont think you would go wrong with any of them.

And you cocking mass should be fine. The delrin bolt and p block back are pretty light.

[sithos]

ooooops... i ment mpp.. its a custom version of the smc, sorry for the confusion. that one from moody paintball is insanely fast.. i know cause i put one on my old eblade to replace the eclipse ram that i broke, and it was much smoother.

[afultz075]

Well, I think i'm gonna go with the MPP ram, seems like the best bang for your buck!

[FallNAngel]

Ya got it backwards A better ram will be larger bore, so it can run at a lower pressure, and thereofre be set up to pinch.

Actually, that's not true either. The truth is, the pressure doesn't matter at all. It's the return force that you have to worry about. You could take a stock ram and pinch with it, it's not that hard. Being able to pinch actually has more to do with the mainspring tension than what kind of ram you have.

[68automagpwnr]

STO ram is pretty nice, thats what i have. I don't know exactly how much better they make it, i just hear they are nice, but anything that can fit QEV's or TRV's sounds pretty good.

[Kaiser Bob]

Hey steelrat, thats a pimp *** merlin, I didnt know they sold them cut down like that. Is that custom? How much those suckers run?

[Steelrat]

Hey steelrat, thats a pimp *** merlin, I didnt know they sold them cut down like that. Is that custom? How much those suckers run?

Thanks man. Its a normal merlin cut down by Martin paintball to a half block. I would have a hard time recommending him or Bob "Turtle" Long, because both of them are taking many months to complete their work. But the work on this one is certainly beautiful.

[Kaiser Bob]

Thanks man. Its a normal merlin cut down by Martin paintball to a half block. I would have a hard time recommending him or Bob "Turtle" Long, because both of them are taking many months to complete their work. But the work on this one is certainly beautiful.

I rather like the sled design on Doc's fastbacks, but his turnaround time is a thing of legend (not in a positive way). But Merlins are like the cadillacs of cockers, and yours is like a pimped out cadillac, +2 bps for every sticker too :)

[trains are bad]

Actually, that's not true either. The truth is, the pressure doesn't matter at all. It's the return force that you have to worry about. You could take a stock ram and pinch with it, it's not that hard. Being able to pinch actually has more to do with the mainspring tension than what kind of ram you have.

true.

THE DIAMETER OF THE RAM MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. STOP BUYING THE HYPE.

the force a ram exerts is a function of pressure and diameter. Getting a larger ram lets you run a lower pressure but exerts THE SAME FORCE. If you had a one inch ram it might run on 5 psi but it is still exerting whatever force is needed to compress the mainspring. I lighter mainspring is what will allow you to run less ram FORCE which will pinch better.

I hate seeing lies spread.

[slade]

THE DIAMETER OF THE RAM MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. STOP BUYING THE HYPE.

the force a ram exerts is a function of pressure and diameter. Getting a larger ram lets you run a lower pressure but exerts THE SAME FORCE. If you had a one inch ram it might run on 5 psi but it is still exerting whatever force is needed to compress the mainspring. I lighter mainspring is what will allow you to run less ram FORCE which will pinch better.

I hate seeing lies spread.

yeah that makes sense... so essentially the best ram is the one that has the least friction, thereby reducing the force needed to cycle?

[Kaiser Bob]

true.

THE DIAMETER OF THE RAM MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. STOP BUYING THE HYPE.

the force a ram exerts is a function of pressure and diameter. Getting a larger ram lets you run a lower pressure but exerts THE SAME FORCE. If you had a one inch ram it might run on 5 psi but it is still exerting whatever force is needed to compress the mainspring. I lighter mainspring is what will allow you to run less ram FORCE which will pinch better.

I hate seeing lies spread.

Actually you should specify that the diameter of the ram makes no difference when you are trying to pinch paint. If you are going for balls out speed, you want a ram that can cycle the fastest with the least pressure, if youre running with a solenoid 4-way you can only crank your LPR so much before the solenoid starts venting.

[punkncat]

Actually, that's not true either. The truth is, the pressure doesn't matter at all. It's the return force that you have to worry about. You could take a stock ram and pinch with it, it's not that hard. Being able to pinch actually has more to do with the mainspring tension than what kind of ram you have.

I was wondering if anyone was going to say that.

I wouldn't worry about replacing the ram. The ANS will work fine. Wait until it leaks , then replace it. And as was mentioned before , higher pressure will give a higher cycle rate , to a point.