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  • Robotech
    Registered User
    • Nov 2004
    • 13

    #31
    I shoot a WS-66 and I must say that I have yet to see any major curves from it when not held perfectly vertical. Also, you do not want to shoot small paint out of the WS-66. I normally shoot Zap Chronic which tends to run about .690 (bore size is .691) and have had much better luck with it than smaller sized paint such as Evil or Marbs. Obviously being consistantly round and of similar size from ball to ball is important as well.

    Currently, I run my WS-66 off of CO2 in a remote set up with a Palmer Regulator mounted below the grip. With this set up my velocity varies +/-3 fps.

    My understanding with the concept of how the barrel works is that pressure at the top of the ball is less than at the bottom because air is allowed to bypass the ball in the three upper channels. The increased pressure at the bottom of the ball accelerates the bottom of the ball faster than the top. Remember that a Flatline's Barrel is not super smooth inside but rather "pitted" to allow it to grip the surface of the ball better to impart the backspin (and that over time as this finish wears off the affect will lessen requiring the barrel to be re-sandblasted by Tippmann). The Hopup barrel is not like this at all and is totally smooth. Thus it is my belief that the Hopup barrel is not relying on the ball being pushed up against the top of the barrel as the Flatline does.

    On the issue of alignment, the Hopup barrel has a groove cut into the outside of the barrel in the back. This groove is perpendicular to the barrel itself. When the barrel is inserted into the WS receiver, a stip pin is inserted to align the grooves. Then a screw in the receiver is tightened to "Clamp" the barrel in place to prevent barrel wobble. However, it seems there have been some manufacturing issues and the gooves for the strip pin have not been placed in the right location thus requiring owners to self align the barrel's hopup gooves. Once this issue gets resolved alignment will not be a problem (My barrel's groove is in the right position).

    While the barrels are listed as being available sepreratly it seems production of the barrels matches the production numbers of entire markers thus every barrel produced seems to be going directly to building complete markers. There have been rumors however that barrels may soon become available for seperate purchase and when that happens it would only seem to make sense for someone, if not Warsensor/Armotech, to come out with a simple screw on clamp adaptor for the barrel.

    Just as an example...this is a day I was sighting in my red dot. The marker had not yet been fired at this distance this day. Paint was a bit old and had some dimples but not too bad. The guy firing it has never fired the marker before. The shooter was prone using the bipod for the shots...

    Last edited by Robotech; 12-01-2004, 03:48 PM. Reason: Added Video

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    • xXHavokXx
      Section XIII.
      • Aug 2003
      • 860

      #32
      We have a ws66 at work some kid brought in. He was going on and on about it and let us try it. Eh, it's nothing to go nuts over. At normal ranges I think my Boomys ate better. at Counter strike-esque snipz0r ranges they kinda float there and you can easily dodge them or they dont break. It doesn't like hellfire, or worr perfection. He seems to believe that because he can shoot from a little farther the ball will get there before the sound. Yes, he is an idiot, but then again I'm thinking he is trying to justify spending 500 on a spyder clone that we've sent back twice. Eh, B for ingenuity and F becuz teh barret t0ta4lly r0xZors teh m4..

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      • IronCore
        all rusted up
        • Apr 2004
        • 142

        #33
        video

        Robotech, thats a nice shot grouping. I definitely think that it is more accurate than the flatline I saw. Does it dip much at 90-feet? the angle from the camera looks like the balls where dipping a little at the end but that might have been just the way it was taken.

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        • ScatterPlot
          Not pop, it's all Coke
          • Jan 2002
          • 1960

          #34
          Do those grooves go down the whole length of the barrel or just right at the start? I can't tell if they're tapered or not from that pic.
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          • IronCore
            all rusted up
            • Apr 2004
            • 142

            #35
            ...wow, I just checked again how far is 90-feet and that grouping kicks butt!! which barrel lenght do you have? 14 or 20. I gotta start saving for one of those

            Scatterplot, I think the grooves goes all the way down.

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            • ScatterPlot
              Not pop, it's all Coke
              • Jan 2002
              • 1960

              #36
              K thanks.
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              • justjoshin590
                Registered User
                • Sep 2004
                • 163

                #37
                robotech, dont hate me for this:
                after getting back the gun i will never play with it, every ball choped in the breach, no matter the paint, these guns are complete crap, and i will never play with one again, i have not been able to test our the barrel, so for now ill just go ahead and say there crap without anything to back that up, btw 66 is for sale, its got a long ris, with 14" barrel, 400$ shipped

                the barrels may be the greatest thing yet in paint ball, but since the guns that use them are teh exact same operation as a 40$ spider (and perforn the same) its in no way worth it, dont beleive me? well its is for sale.....

                and as for the barrels being lined up to fit the gun, it seams like at least 33% of teh barrels dont match up, so instead of using the quick strip pins, you have to tighten the body
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