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  • SlartyBartFast
    The Flying Scotsman
    • Jun 2002
    • 2940

    #1

    Cheater Chip Banned At Nppl



    So, good, bad, or indifferent?

    What other boards should be banned if they're really serious?

    Is it true what they say about the insurance companies? If so, there's a lot of fields taking chances with their liability insurance...
  • trains are bad
    Registered User
    • Oct 2003
    • 1751

    #2
    If they were really serious, they'd ban electros. What they are doing is making it look like they're trying.

    They should go the way NXL did.
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    • SlartyBartFast
      The Flying Scotsman
      • Jun 2002
      • 2940

      #3
      Originally posted by trains are bad
      They should go the way NXL did.
      What was the last thing the NXL did? Wasn't it allow anything as long as it was below a certain bps and stopped when the trigger stopped?

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      • ilikePB
        Craving Disaster
        • May 2004
        • 703

        #4
        Old news man. This was posted on PBN like a week ago. Anyway, I could have guessed this would happen. Everyone knew about the Speedy chips and their ability to turn ramp on and off easily and secretely. I couldn't care less honestly.
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        • Magaman
          Maga - Strong
          • Sep 2004
          • 305

          #5
          I hate playing against someone with a cheater board... There is nothing that pisses me off more than getting nailed by someone whose velocity has been upped another 300fps... I still have welts from games that should be gone by now...

          Besides, NPPL Champions should be players that play well and play even, not there cheating guns... Might as well strap the guns to some battle bots...

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          • ilikePB
            Craving Disaster
            • May 2004
            • 703

            #6
            Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
            What was the last thing the NXL did? Wasn't it allow anything as long as it was below a certain bps and stopped when the trigger stopped?
            They capped the rate of fire at 15bps. Everyone uses 3 shot semi then f/a boards.
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            • ilikePB
              Craving Disaster
              • May 2004
              • 703

              #7
              Originally posted by Magaman
              I hate playing against someone with a cheater board... There is nothing that pisses me off more than getting nailed by someone whose velocity has been upped another 300fps... I still have welts from games that should be gone by now...

              Besides, NPPL Champions should be players that play well and play even, not there cheating guns... Might as well strap the guns to some battle bots...
              Speedy boards only ramp bps, not velocity. Velocity ramping boards are very very rare.
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              • Magaman
                Maga - Strong
                • Sep 2004
                • 305

                #8
                Originally posted by ilikePB
                Speedy boards only ramp bps, not velocity. Velocity ramping boards are very very rare.

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                • ilikePB
                  Craving Disaster
                  • May 2004
                  • 703

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Magaman
                  The Gun should stop shooting after the trigger is let go of however...
                  All ramping chips/boards I've seen(a lot) stop shooting once the trigger is released.
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                  • Blennidae
                    an epileptic hummingbird
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 1920

                    #10
                    I don't know how to adj the velocity on every gun, so how does a board change the velocity. I thought most guns still had mechanical velocity adjustments.

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                    • punkncat
                      One foot less
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 5841

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Blennidae
                      I don't know how to adj the velocity on every gun, so how does a board change the velocity. I thought most guns still had mechanical velocity adjustments.
                      By changing forward pulse/dwell whatever , you increase the velocity. Some markers couldn't be cheated this way , such as sear trippers and the like. Just about anything with a 'noid or spool valve could be.

                      As a matter of fact the "mod" (I am not sure what its called) that is available for Matrix to fix FSDO actually increases the forward pulse on the first shot only. That makes up for the loss of velocity on first shot after the marker has been sitting for a moment. It wouldn't be too hard to alter programming to make that feature user changable.
                      Last edited by punkncat; 11-16-2004, 06:38 PM.

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                      • CaliMagFan

                        #12
                        i think that can be affected by dwell settings on the valve..... longer open time of the valve would mean higher vel... doesnt have to be a mechanical change for upped reg pressure or anything...

                        correct me if i'm wrong... i shoot mechs. (for the reason of issues like this)

                        -kyro

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                        • BD_Paintball
                          UW-Whitewater Paintball
                          • May 2003
                          • 2268

                          #13
                          the imp you adjust it on the board. so with ecs there can be a way to make it go higher when you shoot fast. im sure no one would want this but there sure there is a way to program the board to open the valve longer when it is shot over a certain bps.
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                          • Korrosion
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 149

                            #14
                            Originally posted by punkncat
                            By changing forward pulse/dwell whatever , you increase the velocity. Some markers couldn't be cheated this way , such as sear trippers and the like. Just about anything with a 'noid or spool valve could be.

                            As a matter of fact the "mod" (I am not sure what its called) that is available for Matrix to fix FSDO actually increases the forward pulse on the first shot only. That makes up for the loss of velocity on first shot after the marker has been sitting for a moment. It wouldn't be too hard to alter programming to make that feature user changable.
                            Its called ABS when its on a matrix. If the lpr is set correctly abs will not result in hot shots. When the lpr is correctly set the dump chamber vents completly on each shot. There is a sticky over at matrix owners (http://forums.matrixowner.com/viewtopic.php?t=7707) that explains how the lpr affects velocity. Basically making the front pulse longer is the same as upping the lpr. There are several boards out there that make that feature user changeable out of the box, Tadao is one of them and is well respected for its versatility. ABS, like most other features in that it can be a great tool to help correct a small problem or it can be used to cheat.
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                            • trains are bad
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1751

                              #15
                              I think I'm gonna hang an allen wrench around my neck at the next tournament, and when the refs say 'hey you can't have tools on the field' I'll just say, 'don't worry you can trust me, I won't cheat'. Because that's basically how it is with electros. It's only fair.
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