enag, programming harness?

[GT]

just wondering if anyone has built there own harness to access the boards programming?

[RRfireblade]

You pretty much have to since they're not anything 'standard'.

So, yeah.

[GT]

You pretty much have to since they're not anything 'standard'.

So, yeah.

I was hoping i could get more "guidance" on the issue, on the forum or pm.

[Steelrat]

I know of a person who did, but no one has seen him for a while. Clever guy, was actually able to program the emag to do full auto and some other cool stuff.

[RRfireblade]

Basically you have hack up and old ACE board and and Old Emag Wire Harness to get the plugs. After that you'll have to get the board pinouts that I won't give out since Tom would likely have my head BUT they have been posted around the net if you look in the right places.Then you'll have to purchase a programmer.....and it has to be the 'correct' programmer for the Emag chip,and then a hex edittor of some type if your going to try and write your own code,and then....if you don't already know it, you'll have to learn 'binary' code as well as how to program in 'assembly' language.

Simple really.

Anything else?

[MonsterMag]

Heres a pic if it helps

[RRfireblade]

Oh yeah, don't plan on using a compiler to write the code either as it 'bloats' the code far to much for the amount of board memory you have available to work with.

[Steelrat]

Slightly off topic, but I wonder why some companies (AGD, Planet Eclipse, Dye) do not have a provision for user update of software, while others (WAS, Vapor, AKA, Race) do.

[GT]

Slightly off topic, but I wonder why some companies (AGD, Planet Eclipse, Dye) do not have a provision for user update of software, while others (WAS, Vapor, AKA, Race) do.

My guess,
you have to develope a non-geek friendly software interface. Alot less headache to take some of that out of hands of the end user.

I found a post by bil mils on shocker owners and an article he wrote on analog "stamp". got some reading to do.

[Tunaman]

Heres a pic if it helps

HEY! That is MY Prototype cable! JONAGD has that one now. The new ones are alot nicer.

[Caffiend]

Which software version could you change the start up text?

[White_Noise]

im pretty sure the start up text can be change in 4.2, i think it can in 4.01

[Caffiend]

I know you can in 4.x, I'm hoping you can do it in 3.2 also

[FallNAngel]

Basically you have hack up and old ACE board and and Old Emag Wire Harness to get the plugs.

Or you could probably just order them from Mouser or Digikey..

Then you'll have to purchase a programmer.....and it has to be the 'correct' programmer for the Emag chip,and then a hex edittor of some type if your going to try and write your own code

Well, I'm not sure what chip the board has on it (though I could find out), I have a small feeling that there's a free programmer out there somewhere for it. I also have a strong feeling that the chip is locked and you will have no choice but to write your own code.

and then....if you don't already know it, you'll have to learn 'binary' code as well as how to program in 'assembly' language.

You don't "learn" binary. Binary is just 1's and 0's. There's really no way to learn that. I mean, you'll have to know what binary is, how to move individual bits, knowledge of hex, etc; but you won't have to be able to read a program that's been compiled into binary form. You will have to learn a higher level language such as C or ASM though, which isn't an overnight job.

Oh yeah, don't plan on using a compiler to write the code either as it 'bloats' the code far to much for the amount of board memory you have available to work with.

Actually, most often compilers try to do just the opposite and optimize the code. That's one of the benefits (or detriments) to programming in ASM, usually it takes what you have an that's it... which is one of the reasons you'd actually *use* ASM... it's a fast, low level language. Past that, compilers are an essential part of any programming task. I'm not quite sure how you'd go about programming easily without one...

[MindJob]

All of this should be available from AGD. It would save them the time and trouble of flashing the boards. I watched Tunaman flash mine, and there really is nothing to it, They should sell a harness/interface kit, alons with a cd with ALL ot the available software on it,

A little off topic, but I think E-mag owners are chomping at the bit for new software.