How to mod a revvy??

[evo.end3R]

The turbo revy was a joke. On the website they posted 17 BPS which is impossible for a gravity feed hopper. But to some people out there they believe everything they read online and bought it and Jim Drew laughed to the bank selling a revy board for big bucks when it did not do anything.

??? i havnt seen anything online. George from Viewloader allstars has acess to a whole machine shop = many many tools, and he made a forcefeed hopper with a revvy body. i didnt read this anywhere, he plays at the field i ref at in the off season. hes currently working out a deal with "snake" whoever that is, in which snake will purchase the prototype "super revvy" and mass produce them, early in 2005. i have personally talked to george about it a few times and he wont let anyone know he he did it but i stuck close to him one game and when he was reloading i took a peek and it has a eggy paddle. it feeds a constant 18bps, with bursts up to 21bps.

[madmolly]

Story

Back when Dynasty was running around with Revys on their super angels everyone wanted to know why. They said the had enhanced revys. Wicked Air Sports (jim Drew) then promoted a new Turbo Revy that would feed at 17+ Balls per second. I wish I had the diagrams they had online. It was impossible to do with a simple agitated hopper but people still bought the lie and bought the part. I think becuase WAS was laughing so hard they discontinued it or maybe becuase they knew it was a flat out lie. I don't know but is was interesting. You still get someone popping online trying to sell a turbo revy for 60 bucks that will not spin any faster than the x board.

[evo.end3R]

Back when Dynasty was running around with Revys on their super angels everyone wanted to know why. They said the had enhanced revys. Wicked Air Sports (jim Drew) then promoted a new Turbo Revy that would feed at 17+ Balls per second. I wish I had the diagrams they had online. It was impossible to do with a simple agitated hopper but people still bought the lie and bought the part. I think becuase WAS was laughing so hard they discontinued it or maybe becuase they knew it was a flat out lie. I don't know but is was interesting. You still get someone popping online trying to sell a turbo revy for 60 bucks that will not spin any faster than the x board.

haha thats pretty funny

The new "eggolution" as george calls it is acutally forcefed, i'll definatly be getting one whenever they pop out on the market, i just may beable to grab one before theyre out

[Lee]

sounds to me like someone's getting thier chain yanked........

[nerobro]

I have successfully gotten 20bps from a vl200. I am sure it could be done with a revvy.

Here's the deal. Get a servo arm from your local r/c car/plane shop. Get an APP guppy. The cheap ones with the slip on top. Cut the guppy as if you were slicing a bannana. Make the slices 3/4" wide. Now you have a ring. Cut the top 1/3 off the ring so you now have a curved paddle. Screw this paddle to the servo arm. Finally, gut the electronics from the revvy. Hook up a trigger switch. And use two 9 volt batteries in series. 27 volts has been tried as well.

The best I can figure as to why this works is that the paddle stirrs the paint sufficantly that it behaves as a liquid instead of a powder. Oh yea, 20bps only happens for the first 1/2 the hopper or so. And you can't completely fill the hopper. As you get fewer balls in the hopper "pressure" decresses so the feed rate goes down.

This is how I got RT 00076 to not chop anymore when "riding the on/off" I think this was back in 98-97. but don't hold me to the date. Somewhere I have pictures of the gun and hopper.

There would have been this paddle on hte market, but I got involved with al mollick. If you need futher explanation you should search for his name.

[madmolly]

Whatever

OK glad to know you got 20 BPS out of a old viewloader revy. Go back to pbnation where they might believe it.

[tolley]

It may be true.

It could be done. I have seen tests, and done one my self with a straight tube stacked with paintballs 100 high. Have someone time how long it takes all balls to fall out when you let them, you'll be surprised. 30 bps is not uncommon. Now I know this is not a legit application. After all who wants a three foot tube sticking up out of the marker, and any tipping of the tube would throw off the feeding, not to mention blowback issues. But it does show how fast gravity alone can feed the balls. Back in the day of tube feeds it was common to see guys with two tubes stuck together so they could feed 20 balls without reloading.


On a similar not, If we are wanting faster hoppers, why isn't the Q loader getting more popular, or is it and I'm just not seeing it. Isn't it supposed to feed very, very fast.

[madmolly]

You are right

You summed it up in one word stacked tube. The evo and halo stack paintballs the revy cannot stack any more paintballs than that which would fit into the 2 inch tube that is what makes 20 BPS impossible without some sort of stacking. The amount of paintballs pressing against each other alone with only one hole to hit. The halo and evo have multiple places where paint can fall to be loaded into the stack this is what speed loading and increases weight.

[slade]

It could be done. I have seen tests, and done one my self with a straight tube stacked with paintballs 100 high. Have someone time how long it takes all balls to fall out when you let them, you'll be surprised. 30 bps is not uncommon. Now I know this is not a legit application. After all who wants a three foot tube sticking up out of the marker, and any tipping of the tube would throw off the feeding, not to mention blowback issues. But it does show how fast gravity alone can feed the balls. Back in the day of tube feeds it was common to see guys with two tubes stuck together so they could feed 20 balls without reloading.


On a similar not, If we are wanting faster hoppers, why isn't the Q loader getting more popular, or is it and I'm just not seeing it. Isn't it supposed to feed very, very fast.

that is not reliable whatsoever. when you actually play, the balls dont fall at a constant rate, they have to feed one ball quickly and then stop while the marker fires, then feed another ball quickly again. also, a drop test with a tube is EXTREMELY unacurate, since if you let all the balls fall, they will accelerate as they fall. the first ball will exit the tube slowly, but the last one out of the tube will be moving much faster. while the tube is actually on the marker, the ball is stationary, then falls .68", then is stationary again. so only the first .68" of this test will be acurate, the rest (the largest factor in the results) is completely irrelevant.

and to answer your second question, the Qloader is unpopular because it is 1) very different 2) takes a while to load 3) has a 100 round capacity 4) you cannot top it off, and 5) it is overkill. how many of you have outshot a halo, legally? (no bounce or ramping). and if you have and shoot that fast often, would you want to cut the capacity of your loader in half?

[tony3]

Back when Dynasty was running around with Revys on their super angels everyone wanted to know why. They said the had enhanced revys. Wicked Air Sports (jim Drew) then promoted a new Turbo Revy that would feed at 17+ Balls per second. I wish I had the diagrams they had online. It was impossible to do with a simple agitated hopper but people still bought the lie and bought the part. I think becuase WAS was laughing so hard they discontinued it or maybe becuase they knew it was a flat out lie. I don't know but is was interesting. You still get someone popping online trying to sell a turbo revy for 60 bucks that will not spin any faster than the x board.

Dynasty never said anything about "enhanced" revvys. They have always denied having special revvys. They said they had old style shells, eggy paddles and xboards in them. I have put eggy paddles in all my revvys, helps it feed more consistently, NOT faster. With the right tools, it is very simple to design a force feed revvy.

[nerobro]

OK glad to know you got 20 BPS out of a old viewloader revy. Go back to pbnation where they might believe it.

Duplicatnig my test would take you all of maybe half an afternoon. Including drive time to buy parts you don't have. Try it sometime. Time for say... Two or three secconds with 120 rounds in the hopper. The speed drops off as you get fewer balls in the hopper.

[evo.end3R]

sounds to me like someone's getting thier chain yanked........

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lee come to orbital on saturdays, george from viewloader will be there, check out his "revvy"

[madmolly]

Tony

Tony3 in an old article 2 1/2 years ago they said it in jest in an article in PGI or some other mag I have. Who knows it may have been taken out of context and people ran with it. They denied it after that but no one cared. As for making a force feed revy. Do you know what force feed actually means. Pressure on the ball pushing it into the breech of your marker. . A revy is a simple ball drop loader. The paddles do not and can not put a downward push on the ball like a evo or halo do. So no a revy cannot be forcefeed. Unless you mod it with a channel and then it is not a revy.

[evo.end3R]

Tony3 in an old article 2 1/2 years ago they said it in jest in an article in PGI or some other mag I have. Who knows it may have been taken out of context and people ran with it. They denied it after that but no one cared. As for making a force feed revy. Do you know what force feed actually means. Pressure on the ball pushing it into the breech of your marker. . A revy is a simple ball drop loader. The paddles do not and can not put a downward push on the ball like a evo or halo do. So no a revy cannot be forcefeed. Unless you mod it with a channel and then it is not a revy.

omg you people dont get it. george made a force feed loader with revvy SHELLS
the internals are totally different, it is acutally force fed. next time im at the field ill bing a video camera just to show you guys.

[shatter_storm]

If he's planning on selling this thing, or scamming money out of people with it, then he isn't going to let you take a picture of the inside. But if you can snap a pic of the inside without paint in it, then it should be easy to tell if he's lying out his rear or not.