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  • Evil1
    Registered User
    • Nov 2003
    • 979

    #1

    Kingman Rocker triggers

    I was just wondering if the new rocker triggers from Kingman that claim user attainable 30bps fire rates are tourny legal? I don't think they would be. I was also wondering if the raven primal marker is more like a timmy using a ram instead of a sear tripping grip frame? I don't understand the whole "solenoid direct electro system". Thanks in advance for answers.
  • mixwell2
    Searching for Tom Kaye
    • Oct 2003
    • 221

    #2
    I am not sure of the exact in's and out of it all but the friend/rep from Kingman that I talked to about this about a month ago said that the final version that is going to be released IS tourney legal.
    As far as the primal it sure LOOKS like a timmy...i shot one and all it did was break paint...with the eye on!!
    who cares how your marker looks...just move fast and shoot straight

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    • thereal_JT
      Registered User
      • Dec 2002
      • 350

      #3
      last i heard they were not legal because it technically is 2 triggers and you can only have one. Just what i have heard dont know for sure.

      JT
      ...and by golly there will be flavored paint, because i said so

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      • DiRTyBuNNy
        Registered User
        • Sep 2001
        • 4854

        #4
        Originally posted by thereal_JT
        last i heard they were not legal because it technically is 2 triggers and you can only have one. Just what i have heard dont know for sure.

        JT
        don't you mean two switches? there is only one physical trigger, the trigger pin is just mounted in the mid point of the trigger.
        Dirty Clothes for Dirty Ballers!

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        • RAM3139
          Registered User
          • Nov 2002
          • 67

          #5
          The primal is more along the lines of a BKO in operation. Its not a sear tripper, the "solenoid direct electro system" is kingman hype-speak for an air-forwatd, spring return ram system. The primal is actually considered to be the reincarnation of the EM1.

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          • matt-o
            eater of babies
            • Aug 2003
            • 910

            #6
            people already did this, and most tournies didnt think it should be allowed, i think the rule specifically was one microswitch only. also they already sell these types of triggers on the pgi osirises
            WAS'ed angel speed

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            • Evil1
              Registered User
              • Nov 2003
              • 979

              #7
              I still don't think this system would be tourny legal. The primal is exactly like that gun made by odyssey then.

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              • RAM3139
                Registered User
                • Nov 2002
                • 67

                #8
                I'm also doubting the legality of it in tournaments, as similar designs have been deemed illegal in the past. However, the designers of the kingman version say they have a letter from the nppl allowing it. Who knows, maybe now in the time of super-bounce and blatant ramping, a 2 switch system doesnt seem like that big of a deal.

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                • ShooterJM
                  Shooter Wang - Ice Ninja
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 3651

                  #9
                  I dunnoe, I know doc tried it a while back and was told it wouldn't be allowed.
                  It's HERE! Play at Shooter's Casino!!!!!! It'll be fun........

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                  • Meph
                    AO's Tippmann Guy
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 737

                    #10
                    Thankfully most kingman customers are recballers, not NPPL players!


                    Everybody's focues on 'tourney legal' sure, but just remember the audience that this is marketed toward. Namely those who don't play tournaments. I think the phrase 'tourney legal' is more of just a marketing thing, like "it's more Low Pressure" or "board can go 66.6 bps" type of stuff.

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                    • xXHavokXx
                      Section XIII.
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 860

                      #11
                      Not like they could hit anything. A spyder at 30 bps would be like a mac-10

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                      • SOAD8789
                        The Other White Meat
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 275

                        #12
                        ^^ true that....

                        i think the frame is legal though. and the primal is like a bko, but it has eyes. ive heard a lot of good things about the primal, id like to try one out myself.
                        Remember, nitrogen hits harder!

                        Originally posted by minimag03
                        I play back for this guy. Our team marker is a VL Genesis with Reloader B and SP Maxflo systems.

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                        • Glickman
                          *Insert Witty Phrase*
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2673

                          #13
                          i thought the spyder board was capped at 13?

                          might be ATTAINABLE, but not... techinically possible

                          i confuse myself

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                          • 68magOwner
                            Registered User
                            • May 2003
                            • 3475

                            #14
                            not legal, but not really any faster than a normal frame i would think

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                            • thereal_JT
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 350

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Glickman
                              i thought the spyder board was capped at 13?

                              might be ATTAINABLE, but not... techinically possible

                              i confuse myself
                              thats where that new tboard comes in...and earlier when i said triggers i ment as in 2 triggering mechanisms as in the switch.

                              JT
                              ...and by golly there will be flavored paint, because i said so

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