Mags Banned from NJ Tournaments?

[shartley]

This was posted on another forum, and I find it odd at best.

the saint wrote:
Its funny how mags are not alowed in tornys.mhmmmm gee!!!!

but some how electros made it . if i had my way all speed ball would be pump and know one could cry about fast markers and settings.

No big deal Mags will always have a place in woods and recball.

If I get any classic people I will send them your way.

So I replied with:

shartley wrote:

And he responded with:

the saint wrote:
Wait your right what I should have said was X valves. and R/T's.

Most of those teams used classics or x or e mags. that limmit you to one pull one ball.

I think the X valve is a Great for Woods ball.

So I responded with:

shartley wrote:

But he came back with:

the saint wrote:
NO YOU can not use a X valve or r/t in our area for any type of speed ball torny. they dont allow it I dont know what the deal is in other places. but in nj every thing I ever Entered I was Told I could Not Use It the only way was with my Emag that only allowas One shot.
I know How to set them up I am a bio enginer and also a tech.
I dont know what your deal is all of a sudden I have 36 guns and the x valve mag was the only marker I could not use in a torny. I dont know what to tell you?
I realy dont care if you belive me or not Im simply telling you what I have Been Told. I personaly HATE SPEED ball its Not what the sport started as. ONE REASON TOM HAS LEFT.

LONG LIVE THE MAG!!!!!!!!
Now this has been flamed sorry.

[hardr0ck68]

i know he is full of crap....i was for a time sponcered by the nicest field i ever say in NJ (or much else where) PBX and Mel (Ronin on the forums). I was on what started out as an all mag tourny team (we played alot in nj and pa). I can say for sure our markers were more legal than 90% of the timmys we ran into....and never did i see a field try to stop us or them....

[Dayspring]

Your guy is an idiot Sam. Plain and simple.

[Muzikman]

My guess is that this person plays in a local tourney circuit run by one person or field and that this person or field does not understand the difference between Mag RT and Tippmann RT. I have heard about this happening at quite a few different fields and not just in NJ.

[Wc Keep]

never experienced this. the only place i can think of that might be that ignorant might be a demonic run tournament but they are all the way in the boondocks far from civilization.

[Twitch04]

Im a ref at a local field and so i run into a lot of both versions of rt. a lot of rec ball players love to set there trigger to bounce cause they like to use a lot of paint. from what ive been told the former rec ball going tourny players werent changing back to a one full trigger pull per shot and the refs kept have prob's with bounceing so they tried to ban them but when they realized the difference they just got a little stricter on gun checks to make sure that player werent useing an illeagal mode/setting int here tourny's. But it is a common misconception that all mags are banned and they are truly not. also in some of the national circuits they are changeing to a 3 pull full auto mode with a 15 bps limit.

[MonsterMag]

They cant bann emags if you take of the mode selector

[Wc Keep]

They cant bann emags if you take of the mode selector

yes they can because an emag can still have mechanical bounce.
plus a tourney organizer can ban whatever gun he so feels like.

[MonsterMag]

yes they can because an emag can still have mechanical bounce.
plus a tourney organizer can ban whatever gun he so feels like.

if you take of the sear thingy , and just leave the pluger on it , it cant be put in mech, and if you adjust it , it wont be recative

True they can ban any marker they want , but that would me (Anti Mag)

[Wc Keep]

no if a gun can have enough vibration to make the gun fire again when pulled gently its called bounce. nothing you can do can prevent that.except down your bps to 8.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

Never heard of it at any fields I go to. Probably the hicks down in south jersey.

[Muzikman]

The way the HES works it's kinda hard to get bounce. What I noticed with my emag is that if you adjust the trigger that close, the HES get's flacky. It can be done I am sure, but it would take work to do it.

[Wc Keep]

The way the HES works it's kinda hard to get bounce. What I noticed with my emag is that if you adjust the trigger that close, the HES get's flacky. It can be done I am sure, but it would take work to do it.

it was the only way i could shoot my emag fast. and even when it was fast it wasnt reliable.

[punkncat]

There are a few fields here that won't allow the use of an X valve , or RT in tournies. I don't know where the thought comes from , but they say there is an unfair advantage.......HA!

[rabidchihauhau]

maybe its a legacy of the fact that multiple years ago, the NPPL briefly 'banned' the RT valve because of the trigger return. Tom quickly sorted it out with the rules committee - probably by using 'gentle' persuasion.