My mag.

[SCpoloRicker]

first off, I didnt post to melt someones face off. and the truth is you will spent eternity in hell if you dont accept Jesus as your savior. This is the last I will say on my behalf. Flame away

You may have faith that accepting Jesus will prevent you from eternal hell. That doesn't mean that your belief is fact.

faith ** n.
1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.

2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.

3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.

4. often Faith Christianity. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.

5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.

6. A set of principles or beliefs.

From dictionary.com. Most pertinent being number two, "Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence"


truth
n. pl. truths (trthz, trths)

1.Conformity to fact or actuality.

2. A statement proven to be or accepted as true.

3. Sincerity; integrity.

4. Fidelity to an original or standard


Here we are looking at both number 1 & 2. Can you factually prove that Hell exists? God? By prove I mean using an academically rigorous, experimentally sound method. Specifically, not faith. As we have shown, faith does not rely on logical proof or material evidence.

Squid, as usual, may be a twit. But he's right, also, in that I agree that it is offensive being told I am going to hell. I don't think that's appropriate. Particularly when this group, as a whole, represents some very non-humanistic ideals. Odd for a brit to jump in on the Religous Right side... I thought you guys were as scared of them as the sentient minority is here in the states.

[The Action Figure]

your entitled to your beliefs however wrong you may be, you can insult my personal integrity if you wish, but I will not retaliate. your words have saddened my, but there is only so much I can do as it is your decision to make. Have a nice day.

[JoshK]

I wanna see some evidence to proove God does not exist.

And no. Gideon and I are not ignorant, we just care for people. If you knew a fellow human was gonna die. Wouldnt you try and help so that they wouldnt? You may call us ignorant, but have you listened at all to christians? I bet not. Have we listened to non-believers?

Even if we christians are wrong, and ignorant, atleast I know were I am going. And if we are wrong. Then we are wrong with the rest of humanity, and are all just gonna die, and thats the end. Do you have that kind assurance?


Check this out if you want alittle proof. Its kinda deep. So it takes a high IQ like mine to understand

http://www.doesgodexist.org/

And goro. If you are that proud of your "religion" why dont you share it with us?

[quik]

Why cant he have what he wants in his sig? It doesnt state at all that it is against the rules. Please Squid, grow up. If you dont want to see things like that, then turn signitures off or just learn to deal with it. Its children like you that need to grow up and learn to be a man and not whine about everything that rubs you the wrong way. You are wrong for posting about his signiture, it could have been avoided and solved via PM.

The Action Figure, please, dont try to tell Squid what is going to happen to him in the afterlife. There is no phsyical proof of what happens to you after you die, whether you go to heaven, or to hell. Also, you dont have to be saved by a priest or anyone to be saved, all you have to do is accept god into your life and you will be saved, so please just stop posting, or at the very least, take it to friendly corner.

You may have faith that accepting Jesus will prevent you from eternal hell. That doesn't mean that your belief is fact.

It isnt a fact at all, just because it is in a book that alot of people just believe in doesnt make it real. There is no physical proof of what happens to you after you die. Please stop pushing this down the kids throat, especially if he doesnt want to hear it from you.

I wanna see some evidence to proove God does not exist.

Show me some that he DOES. Please dont throw that book in my face becuase all it is letters, I want PROOF.

And goro. If you are that proud of your "religion" why dont you share it with us?

Just because you are proud of your 'religion'(way to make yourself look stupid) doesnt mean that you have to share it with anyone. If you are content with yourself, you dont need to share anything with anybody.


I REALLY dont want to discuss this, becuase we are in the wrong forum and you guys dont know how to debate properly at all, especially when its about religion.


With that being said, nice mag man. I hope you enjoy it.

[JoshK]

Thanx...i got it today and it rocks!

[SCpoloRicker]

your entitled to your beliefs however wrong you may be, you can insult my personal integrity if you wish, but I will not retaliate. your words have saddened my, but there is only so much I can do as it is your decision to make. Have a nice day.

Excuse me. At what point did I attack your personal integrity? To the contrary, it is you and others who have impugned mine, and others integrity. You have explained multiple times that in your worldview/opinion, those who don't accept Christ are doomed to hell. Thats a lot more of a personal attack than asking not to be judged by standards you dont accept.

[-=Squid=-]

I wanna see some evidence to proove God does not exist.And goro. If you are that proud of your "religion" why dont you share it with us?

I wanna see some evidence that God does exist.

I never said anything about being proud of my religion, I never said anything about mine. Wanna know why? It's not your business. It's not anyones but my own. Apparently it matters so much as for you retards to catch me on aim to ask. Congratulations, you now know that I follow the same moral codes as a Christian... i'm just not a jackass.

- Gorsho

[MarkM]

Ok this is getting close to nasty .....thread closed.

[SCpoloRicker]

Congratulations, you now know that I follow the same moral codes as a Christian... i'm just not a jackass.

- Gorsho

No Jesus = Eternal Hell.

Stupid. Being a good, moral person has nothing to do with it. You have to figure out where He is hiding, so you can find Him. Then, go out unto the masses, and convert the heathens. Then, you go to heaven.

Gandhi? Hell. Ben Franklin? Hell. (he wasn't evangelical) Mother Theresa? Maybe, but probably hell.

Who is this Gorsho?


EDIT due to lock: Nice mag. I'll let you know how people respond to my sig...

MarkM: I assume this is locked for the bickering tone? Hopefully not for content... Feel free to PM me if anything needs to be addressed.

[trains are bad]

I don't care what The Action Figure Aka gideon has in his signiature. I just want him to give me my $35 back.

[SCpoloRicker]

I don't care what The Action Figure Aka gideon has in his signiature. I just want him to give me my $35 back.

Hahahahah! Knowing that this is Gideon explains a lot... Hope you get your money issue resolved.