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  • sicones
    Registered User
    • Jan 2002
    • 193

    #1

    whats with this cocker

    I'v been look to get a cocker for the hell of it and I was wondering why this gun is so cheap at action village????????

    http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...%2em%2ehmCbZs#
  • danoxide
    posts:300
    • Jan 2004
    • 406

    #2
    that cocker is made for new ballers just getting into the sport...its like a spyder but with the cocker name on it...


    (i have no idea how they preform and i wasn't saying they preform like spyders im just stating its marketed more to new paintballers)
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    • C_lawgik
      www.tunamart.com
      • Nov 2003
      • 99

      #3
      on pbstar they had a review of these awhile ago.
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      • Duzzy
        Mentally confused, wanders

        • Apr 2004
        • 940

        #4
        It has no regulator only a gas-through foregrip. It probably in all honesty does not have much in the way of upgradability. The 3-way is internal, I don't see the ram so I don't know about that. But is is basically taking a cocker and making it CHEAP and affordable so that K2 (?) the parent company can make lots of money... Plus the whole close-bolt line and the air effeciency thing should help boost sales. Personally I would shop around and try and find a cheap 2k3. I got mine almost 6 months ago for $300 new. Just my thoughts.

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        • shortkidsrus
          ?
          • Sep 2004
          • 141

          #5
          Yeah those are made to be entry level. One finger hinge frame, integrated threeway, etc. Seems like you would be stuck with the stock threeway, kind of limits the tinkering factor, which in turn defeats the purpose of buying a Cocker IMO.

          I agree with duzzy, except you might *** well buy a used one with the ups already on it for $300. Hmm I think I have one for sale...

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          • tippmannsniper-
            dont have a tipman, really
            • Jun 2004
            • 575

            #6
            because it got 4 out of 10 stars on pbreview and the frame is plastic and theirs virtually no upgrades for it
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            • argnot
              I can do anything
              • Nov 2003
              • 725

              #7
              it's the new cocker, they changed alot of the parts(like eliminating the front block) and the moved alot of parts to make the gun more marketable to newbs and noncocker people by making them easier to set-up and take apart. Personaly I think it's not gonna do horribly well. I happen to like the fact that my cockers have tons of parts cause that just means more to customize. Also no offense to anyone who likes the new cocker.
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              • 50 cal
                The evil voices win today
                • Nov 2000
                • 960

                #8
                $169, you can't beat it for an emergency back up or loaner gun to a bud. Nice and basic.

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                • Destructo6
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 549

                  #9
                  I handled one of these a few weeks ago. The 3-way is integrated into the vertical ASA on the right side. I thought the integration was pretty slick, really. I'm sure it won't be long before somebody comes out with an upgrade 3-way shaft. The gripframe looked like plastic (very smooth), but was actually aluminium. The trigger was a pretty stiff, but then, so is a stock WGP hinge. The ram is standard Autococker fare. The LPR has a unique mounting method for which adaptors are already in the works.

                  It's designed to compete, side by side, with the Spyder/Tippman market segment. There was an ad for a Trilogy Sport kit (gun, tank, mask, hopper, pods) for $179 at Sportmart.

                  A lot of the Cocker guys hate them for various reasons.

                  I see the possibility of a huge advantage here. Beginners start with a Trilogy and learn a somewhat simplified Cocker system. When they go to upgrade in a few years, an Orracle would be a natural choice and they will have 80%-90% of knowledge to upkeep it. So, threads like, "Just got E-Cocker, what is this rod sticking out of the back?" would be reduced dramatically.
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                  • sicones
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 193

                    #10
                    whats a really cheap cocker that is upgradable besides that one??

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                    • White Wolf
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 73

                      #11
                      I got a few in and have since sold a few, in testing I found the tilogys to work as well as the stock 2k2-2k4 full autocockers. For some one entering into PB and picking up a "cocker" thats has good name recognition is probly a better option then picking up the ubiquitious Stacked tube blowback.

                      Obviously if upgrading is your thing the Trilogy is not the gun you would want, but even that being said I know there are companies working on a host of aftermarket stuff for these guns....E frame's, pneumatics, pump kits...yada yada yada.

                      YMMV

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                      • sicones
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 193

                        #12
                        I'm not new to paintball but I want to get a cheap cocker that I can mess around with many interchangeable parts...

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                        • jekyll
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 32

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sicones
                          whats a really cheap cocker that is upgradable besides that one??
                          the oldest vertical feed cocker you can find will probably be the best. If you are planning on upgrading the body or don't mind side feed an 02 side feed will work: http://www.paintballgateway.com/wgp02sifeaur.html
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                          • RtDaNiMaL
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                            • Aug 2003
                            • 541

                            #14
                            yeah, a buddy of mine has a neighbor with that gun. he picked it up at sportsmart for like 60 bux. really horrible cocker. The air efficiency is horrible and you can set the velocity perfect and the balls curve all over the place. i am not sure if this is upgradeable, but his trigger frame was plastic and you could barely fit two fingers on the trigger if you wanted to even try to walk it. also the timing is horrible and chops if you try to shoot fast with just one finger. I would not reccomend this gun to anyone, even newbs. if you want a cocker, you would be much better buying like a used 03' cocker online stock for like really cheap. they are all over th eplace if you look. Just whatever you do, dont look back at that coker, it was probably one of the worst guns that i have ever shot in a long long time.

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                            • alooney11
                              I like Halo2
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 349

                              #15
                              Thats On Ebay!!!!!!!!!
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