I Want Shartley to Strut His Stuff!!

[shartley]

Manike

*/EDIT* after Shartley's PM
But maybe it would be better if you added your ideas and images to another thread (start your own or better yet add it to the one I started please), Shartley doesn't want people crowding 'his' thread where Tom asked for 'his ' ideas
*/END EDIT*

In the Thread where Tom wanted me to go wild.. I think he was NOT intending that to be open to other "talented" people (as you state it is). We already have threads for that. I think Tom wanted to do something for me personally. You may want to check it out before opening it up to the masses... since that is not how I read his post at all.

[manike]

Shartley my original reply wasn't trying to get people to jump on this thread it was to get them to feel they too could have a go at being nuts and designing a milling pattern. I don't care where they post it. I just want them to feel welcome to do so. I didn't want them to feel unwelcome like they were with had drawn images in the Fantasy E-mag thread.

Get off your high horse. Your attitude stinks of 'me me me' and I think many of your posts here and actions are designed to boost your own ego.

Right now I don't give two hoots about your ego, I care about getting the best stuff for AGD in terms of real products and ideas that they can sell. I'll be encouraging everyone I can to post ideas where ever they can.

I'm the one designing these milling patterns for AGDE and thus I wanted to make sure everyone knew they were welcome to contribute to it. They can post it where ever they like for all I care as long as they feel welcome to post it. Nuff said.

manike

[shartley]

Thordic

[Thordic]

I deleted my post because I originally misunderstood what happened.

On the other hand, Tom did ask if AO wanted to see it. I think manike simply expressed that he wanted to see everyones, not just one person in particular. Personally, I don't see why anyone should be singled out as to getting thier own thread for designs, be it manike or yourself. You can post your work in the threads with everyone else, as far as I am concerned. I don't really see the point in this. Lots of people on this forum are talented, and I haven't really seen someone shine above the rest in such a manner that deserve special treatment.

Just so you don't think that is a shot, that includes you, manike, Riotz, synreal, webby, and whoever else wants to do graphics on this site. Unless you have an actual product to show off, keep it with everyone else.

[ThePatriot]

I had not known that, i too apologize shartley, i am deleting my post as well

[speedballbanks]

let shartley work i want to see some nice designs and no talking. lol

[Vegeta]

Yea, I kinda feel bad for shart.. I mean, not beign able to copete in any of the contests.. If I was a graphics artist and I knew i was good.. I would want to enter.. not run it.

[shartley]

ManikeThordic

ThePatriot
No problem.

VegetaGeneral Membership

So why would anyone be upset that I get a little extra attention now? I did not ask for it. I did not prompt it. But do I think it is wrong? No.

This is what confuses me. Tom wanted to do something HE wanted to do. And he wanted to use ME to do it. This is both for HIM, AO, and for Myself personally. Is that such a bad thing? And were is the EVIL SHARTLEY plot to build his ego? Because I pointed out that Tom wanted ME to do this and that everyone else could STILL do what they were ALREADY doing in the other Threads?

Some people have issues, and they are personal ones.. period. And those opinions should be kept off AO. As for the rest of the garbage.. I am very sorry. I did not think Tom asking me to do something could have threatened so many people.. or offended them.



(I hope my Ego will survive this.)

[Thordic]

Shartley - The examples you gave were finished products. That's why they got singled out. If you designed and had milled an Extreme, then I would be all for you showcasing it. I just meant pure design phase. I don't see any reason for a single persons designs to get singled out.

[beam]

Shartley: Did you approach Tom about running the contests or did he approach you?

Just wondering.

[Vegeta]

(Trying to keep humor in this thread)
Ever notice how shartley also has some of the longest posts? Obviously thre is nothing to do in his head ....

[shartley]

Beam
He approached me, both times.

[Vegeta]

Also.. you are one peice of work shart.. I would have been like "SURE LOOK AT MY 1337 SKILLZ!".. But i guess you are right in the long run... Ego can be a good thing, yet a bad thing in the wrong head.

[manike]

Originally posted by shartley

While we are on the subject since you brought it up, I would like to let everyone know that I asked Tom if it would be OK to allow hand drawings for that competition because I wanted to use the ideas for these custom extremes we are doing now. Tom said Yes and was even offering another prize for the people of AO until he spoke to you and for some reaosn of your own which no-one else knows you stopped it. What harm would it have done? Other than made you back track on a rule? You stopped something that was to the benefit of AO members for reasons best known to yourself and which made little sense to anyone else. It appeared to have been stopped only because you had the power to do so, no other reason.

Originally posted by shartley
[BYou were just pissed because I would not change the rules for you. And I was polite about it until you FORCED the issue. Deal with it. [/B]

I wasn't pissed in the slightest. I wanted it for the benefit of AO members (more prizes and more people eligible to enter). I dealt with it.

Originally posted by shartley
Simply put, TOM made a post directly about me. I will NOT feel guilty for being proud of that.

You should have felt proud. But he made that post in a forum and asked people what they think. Everyone else was just replying with their thoughts on the subject. I'm sorry if they didn't continue the ego massaging that Tom started. Tough, different people have different opinions on subjects.

Originally posted by shartley
Some people have issues, and they are personal ones..

I have no personal issues about you doing designs. I have issues about you doing designs and claiming them possible when they are not. That's the only thing that has annoyed me in all of this. Everything else is opinion and I welcome opinions.

Originally posted by shartley
My answer Tom, is no

It is a shame in many ways but not in others. I know of many people that did not take part in the FantasE-Mag competition purely because you were running it. I wouldn't want people to do the same here because they thought you were involved.

I am involved in this project and so if you do not wish to be that is your choice, if that means others will be, then even better.

manike

[cphilip]

Re: I Want Shartley to Strut His Stuff!!

Originally posted by AGD
Sam,

As one of AO's resident graphics artists you never get to enter the contests because you're running them (thanks a ton for that). Myself and I'm sure the rest of AO, would like to see you go crazy on a bunch of Extreme designs and post them up here....

AGD

This is the reason for only his to be here. Because Tom clearly said so. It was clear to me. Sorry a lot of you didn't read "The Boss's" instructions. And now you have Shartley's answer. He will not be doing any of them for Tom mostly because some of you couldn't just let him have this thing that Tom asked him to do. I would be ashamed of myself if I were you. I know you have personal dislikes of certain people but why look for things that are not there in order to satisfy this hate? I just do not understand how normal intelligent nice people can be so hatefull some times. It bothers me the way you guys go at each other sometimes for no real valid reason. Testosterone overload I think. You know you can just ignore and leave it alone right? I did just that myself until now so I know it can be done.

But now I am closing this as its entire purpose has been defeated.

Sorry about that Tom. You meant well I am sure and can re-open it if you chose to (of course).