Is zak vetter mistaken?

[Lohman446]

If you've ever played with Z-man, you know what kinda of crazy shooting/screaming he does Once he's on you, it's craaaaaazy. Makes me scared, haha.

And I really doubt Zak would lie about anything. He's an honest and very friendly guy.

I find it amusing, on AO where we are supposed to want to see the proof not the hype. You have someone on here asking a serious question, could have asked better, showing you why he feels there is a question here, and asking for the SOUNDWAVE analysis that shows he is wrong. And I hear a lot of "well I've played against Zac and my ears know what 16BPS sounds like". Nothing against Zak, and nothing against the poster - frankly I dont care what BPS your shooting at. But this is not like AO... Maybe there is a miscount somewhere, the poster flat out stated what he did, how he got his resulted, and asked for independent confirmation or denial - he stated he might be wrong.

The title was inflamatory, it was changed. Let the man be, this is an interesting conversation, and frankly I don't think Zak intentionally misrepresented himself, nor do I think the poster. I think given actual analysis rather than PBN style "while my friend is the fastest.. I heard it it must be 500BPS" this might be interesting

[pballratt]

yup i got 15bps on goldwave 16 not far off at all. still dam fast for a mag.

[Wc Keep]

I find it amusing, on AO where we are supposed to want to see the proof not the hype. You have someone on here asking a serious question, could have asked better, showing you why he feels there is a question here, and asking for the SOUNDWAVE analysis that shows he is wrong. And I hear a lot of "well I've played against Zac and my ears know what 16BPS sounds like". Nothing against Zak, and nothing against the poster - frankly I dont care what BPS your shooting at. But this is not like AO... Maybe there is a miscount somewhere, the poster flat out stated what he did, how he got his resulted, and asked for independent confirmation or denial - he stated he might be wrong.

The title was inflamatory, it was changed. Let the man be, this is an interesting conversation, and frankly I don't think Zak intentionally misrepresented himself, nor do I think the poster. I think given actual analysis rather than PBN style "while my friend is the fastest.. I heard it it must be 500BPS" this might be interesting

thank you. exactly what i was trying to say.

hey drewrw this is getting scary we are starting to agree more often now.

[LittlePaintballBoy]

where is Zman. I know he sold/was trying to sell his SFL, but i doubt he got out of the sport.

Hah, there is no way Zak could get out of the sport. It isn't possible.


He still has the RT and I think he is picking up an Excal or Viking of some sorts...

[LittlePaintballBoy]

And your calling me a moron.........

Yeah, I am. Moron.

[TheTramp]

Yeah, I am. Moron.

A direct flame, very constructive.

I can't seem to find any post by speedballa04 which says that Zman is lying. I believe that he thinks the analysis is flawed. There's a big difference.


God forbid anyone questions and/or tries to reproduce results. Oh wait, that's good scientific practice.

[Z-man]

OK I am awake now. I saw this thread last night but did not get a chance to post on it as it was very late for me.

This is very embarrassing new to me as it sounds like I might have posted up the wrong info. Before I post anything else I am going to look at all the videos I have done and double check them, I find it hard to think that something like this went over my head but....

There is no goldwave for the Mac but I have been using BIAS Peak DV. Perhaps I shall try out a send sound editing program and cross reference the results to see if Peak gives me a different answer.

I would like to say though, that wile I was not flattered with the title I am glad someone looks at my work and checks it.

more later.

[Wc Keep]

A direct flame, very constructive.

I can't seem to find any post by speedballa04 which says that Zman is lying. I believe that he thinks the analysis is flawed. There's a big difference.


God forbid anyone questions and/or tries to reproduce results. Oh wait, that's good scientific practice.

well tramp thats what we do here at pbn, we flame and pitchfork and call names cause thats what gets the job done.

[Lohman446]

OK I am awake now. I saw this thread last night but did not get a chance to post on it as it was very late for me.

This is very embassising new to me as it sounds like I might have posted up the wrong info. Before I post anything else I am going to look at all the videos I have done and double check them, I find it hard to think that somethign like this went over my head but....

There is no goldwave for the Mac but I have been using BIAS Peak DV. Perhaps I shall try out a send sound ediing program and cross reference the results to see if Peak gives me a different answer.

I would like to say though, that wile I was not flattered with the title I am glad someone looks at my work and checks it.

more later.

Now this is the response I expected from AO and I must say that it is an intelligent well thought out response. This is where Z-man gets so much respect from, those who blindly defended him might do well to look at why they respect the man. AO appreciates the discussion, especially done in a civil manner

[Z-man]

Now this is the response I expected from AO and I must say that it is an intelligent well thought out response. This is where Z-man gets so much respect from, those who blindly defended him might do well to look at why they respect the man. AO appreciates the discussion, especially done in a civil manner

Thank you for not making fun of all the spelling mistakes I now see I made too..... sigh.. gimme a few hours guys.

[SCpoloRicker]

Thread has been re-named multiple times, and content has been edited multiple times as well. That's why people new to the thread are wondering why all the hate (at least most of them).

Sounds like tomato/tomAtoe on the 15 vs 16 bit, and I'm sure that they are different sections of the string to analyze.

My initial post relfects my thoughts on Original Posters attitude upon joining the board.

Big ups for Zak for handling this in a mature manner. He plays all the time, guys, he's jus t been dormant here for a while. As have cable, steel, stondroopy, and several other responsible adults. This thread managed to get them alive. Me, I'm just a post-whore

As for the infamous SFL E-Mag, I wasn't aware he was selling it, but I know that after having shot Steelrat's Featherlight Excal, he's probably gonna end up with something similar.

See you tomorrow guys!

/Now I feel all bad for picking on ya in Meet & Greet...

[spacedtedybear]

Whoa Whoa Whoa. When did Z-man sell his SFL????

[Wc Keep]

Thread has been re-named multiple times, and content has been edited multiple times as well. That's why people new to the thread are wondering why all the hate (at least most of them).

Sounds like tomato/tomAtoe on the 15 vs 16 bit, and I'm sure that they are different sections of the string to analyze.

My initial post relfects my thoughts on Original Posters attitude upon joining the board.

Big ups for Zak for handling this in a mature manner. He plays all the time, guys, he's jus t been dormant here for a while. As have cable, steel, stondroopy, and several other responsible adults. This thread managed to get them alive. Me, I'm just a post-whore

As for the infamous SFL E-Mag, I wasn't aware he was selling it, but I know that after having shot Steelrat's Featherlight Excal, he's probably gonna end up with something similar.

See you tomorrow guys!

/Now I feel all bad for picking on ya in Meet & Greet...

whoa nelly the title has only been changed once. editin has been done to include stuff. why there was hate in the first place is the retarded thing.

[speedballa04]

"whoa nelly the title has only been changed once. editin has been done to include stuff. why there was hate in the first place is the retarded thing."




I never hated anyone. I respect z-man and his work. I was just bored last night and decided to start goldwaving stuff. That may not have been referred to me wckeep but I just wanted to let everyone know.

[Dayspring]

Well, "lying" has strong negative connotation. "Mistaken" is a better, non derogatory and non accusatory way of saying things.

Perhaps renaming this thread over on PBNation would be in order.