Posers

[REDRT]

Attitude like prof ball players fighting in the stands? That crap rubs off. Don't hate the player. They probably aren't much younger than you. School them, show them whats up! I got the same senerio here. High end markers, awesome equipment, cocky kids. Mostly 16 and under. I find if ya get to know a little about them and not mutter to your friends off the sidelines about them, they might just come around.

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They do it so you will bash them on the internet...

Your post is not making any sense whatsoever. Have you read the thread yet?

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Attitude like prof ball players fighting in the stands? That crap rubs off. Don't hate the player. They probably aren't much younger than you. School them, show them whats up! I got the same senerio here. High end markers, awesome equipment, cocky kids. Mostly 16 and under. I find if ya get to know a little about them and not mutter to your friends off the sidelines about them, they might just come around.

It will take a while to get these kids to understand, and i'm not willing to help a kid that randomly insulted me for no reason. Then goes and trash talks about me over the internet AFTER i had a conversation with him explaining why i got pissed and started trash talkin him. Then he went with the "i was just joking" excuse.

[REDRT]

He trash talks you, you trash talk him, he trash talks you via internet and you do the same. This is all too funny. By the end of next season you will be best friends. Don't you see, it's just so trivial. You started the post with, "these kids" and it ends up with one in particular or so it seems. You two need to let bygones be bygones and start fresh.

[nato]

I would like to congratulate Snypers new accomplishment on making his FIRST useful and thought provocative thread! Welcome to your new life Dennis.

N.A.T.O.

[Gabriel]

This is a stupid thread, and there is no answer to it. This question has been asked thousands of times. And snyper, as many posts as you have, I still remember when you were one of those "look at me" noobs here on the forum. We all just grinned and bore it, now its your turn. Get over it.

Lord Gabriel the Jacob

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He trash talks you, you trash talk him, he trash talks you via internet and you do the same. This is all too funny. By the end of next season you will be best friends. Don't you see, it's just so trivial. You started the post with, "these kids" and it ends up with one in particular or so it seems. You two need to let bygones be bygones and start fresh.

No, this thread originally started as these kids in a whole. then i guess donovan started telling everyone a bit of what happend then everyone got curious then i had to explain what exactly happend. What i'm trying to get at is, HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM?

I've talked to the kid as politely as i could be. I told him that it was just stupid to randomly insult people (something along those lines) and he said he was just joking. But, he shouldn't have randomly insulted a stranger in the first place.

[Miscue]

You know, I want to detail a little more than just a "Oh, you've only noticed it now?" kind of thing.

Paintball has no "ladder" to work up. Do you know how many players are in the pros due only to being a cult of personality? (not as many as there USED to be, but they're still out there) Do you know how many COMPANIES are SOLELY image based and run? There is no "pop warner paintball". There is no way to work up the system other than "You show up, you know what you're doing and we like you, wanna play for us?" And before people start saying that there's a system, there isn't. Any ranking is based SOLELY on who you know, and who knows you. Period. Show me your player statistics and your "AAA Farm league" then I'll begin to conceed the point. Some of the best players are overlooked because nobody knows who they are. It's all about self-hyping, or having people to hype you. If you don't believe me, we'll talk next game and I'll show you what I'm talkign about.

So in a game based on "who looks like they're good", you'll see kids hanging off the guys who look sponsored, and trying to intimidate or impress those who don't. It's about appearances more than skills. Snyper, do I have to remind you about Badlands last winter, when I had people looking at me like I was a "noob" because I wore BDU's and shot an all black gun? They don't know me, they don't know who I am, so therefore I know nothing about playing paintball, let alone how to play a speedball field or a snake bunker. However, the guys in the brand new jerseys, well THEY are wearing jerseys! They must be better, because they know about paintball "garb". And everyone knows you. "the nutcase with the dog in his shorts."

So it shouldn't surprise you when people try to impress, intimidate or suck up, based solely on looks. It's been like that when I remember the "pros" wearing "Tiger Stripe Gear" or "Advantage jammies". It hasn't changed. Now it's easier to call them by name. And in some cases, these self-appointed pro guys just "Can't take the time" to help out a kid who wants to get better, other than say "Watch and learn." It doesn't start with the new guys, it starts with the people being looked up to.

-Tyger

I truly believe that paintball is a defective game because of stuff like this. I don't take it very seriously as a "sport," but I like to play though. "Pro" in paintball doesn't mean much, I've learned - where a golf pro, or football pro - this means something.

It should not be possible for an amateur team to be able to beat a pro team in a real sport. Although the 49ers may suck right now, there isn't a remote possibility that a high school team could beat them.

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I truly believe that paintball is a defective game because of stuff like this. I don't take it very seriously as a "sport," but I like to play though. "Pro" in paintball doesn't mean much, I've learned - where a golf pro, or football pro - this means something.

It should not be possible for an amateur team to be able to beat a pro team in a real sport. Although the 49ers may suck right now, there isn't a remote possibility that a high school team could beat them.

"pro" does somewhat mean something in the "sport" that we play. It's a status that shows you are more experianced or better than the rest. But, acheiving that status takes a GREAT deal less than the sports that you just mentioned.

It's probably the possibility of becomming "pro" that's making this sport grow so fast. Paintball is a basic game to play and if you play paintball against those better than you, you will learn new moves and new tricks that will aid you in the future. There aren't a lot of tricks you have to learn and in a short amount of time you already know what the "pros" know. But, it's perfecting your techniques(getting to your bunker faster, laning, snapping, communicating) that seperates you from being as good as the "pros". With a bit of practice and a good team to play against, it's not too difficult to to reach the point when you can actually take on a profesionnal player.

I'm guessing the mentality of a player that we are all talking about is "What do i need to do to be like them?" And if they see "pros" wearing jerseys and shooting high end markers, they will go ahead and purchase jerseys and high end markers believing that it will make them better. Then comes the attitude. "I need to yell and scream and cuss my behind off because im losing". In most cases it motivates a team and makes them play better but when the player that wants to be like them sees or hears this, they will start trashtalking and cussing their behinds off. These players will do what's easiest to acheive the status of "pro". Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. And to the many unfortunate people that do believe that purchasing all the new gear and highend stuff will make them a better player...good luck

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This is a stupid thread, and there is no answer to it. This question has been asked thousands of times. And snyper, as many posts as you have, I still remember when you were one of those "look at me" noobs here on the forum. We all just grinned and bore it, now its your turn. Get over it.

Lord Gabriel the Jacob

Dude, i remember when i was a little attention whore newb that didnt know anything about paintball also. I've looked back on the things that i've did and thought "man what was i thinking" but then slowly (ok VERY SLOWLY) i began to realize that im not getting anywhere with the things that i did. So i started using my head and stopped making pointless and stupid posts and doing stupid things. I've probably learned the most about paintball in the past few months than the 5 years i've been playing (techinically only 2 years since the other 3 years was on and off). People taught me things, told me how things work and how to get better. People told me what i was doing wrong and how to improve. Back then i was the average hyped up kid "OMG IM GONNA GO PAINTBALLING! YAY!" and not the "OMG IM GONNA GO RAIL ON ALL THESE KIDS!" Who are people gonna help more? The kid that's just happy to be at the field again, or the kid that wants to bully and putdown other paintballers?

Edit: Don't judge people by thier post count

[B.A.M.]

[Lee]

I truly believe that paintball is a defective game because of stuff like this. I don't take it very seriously as a "sport," but I like to play though. "Pro" in paintball doesn't mean much, I've learned - where a golf pro, or football pro - this means something.

It should not be possible for an amateur team to be able to beat a pro team in a real sport. Although the 49ers may suck right now, there isn't a remote possibility that a high school team could beat them.

here, here and amen. thats the best i've heard it put yet.

[Echo-Newb]

Ok, do you mean real small kids like 10-12? Or just 13-15?

Because I mean, I understand where you guys are coming from when you talk about the kids using high end markers and so on and so forth. I mean, lots of people just buy the things and don't even use them. It's practically a waste of money, but that's the idea. The dealers wouldn't care, so paintball is nothing more than a hobby if we continue in the trend that we're going. So this is how it is. That's that.

[White_Noise]

I would like to congratulate Snypers new accomplishment on making his FIRST useful and thought provocative thread! Welcome to your new life Dennis.

N.A.T.O.

had to quote nato on this just for humor sake.

i can see that everyone here for the most part has a valid argument for their theory on what to do. i think that tis will never change, and that the sport will always have kids like that.

as i said before, i prefer to tell them to prove to me how good they are by playing me. do it really loud kinda like what tyger said. or you can try the approach that will instantly make them look like an idiot, and like TDonovan said, just smile, give them a thumbs up, and say "Sweet!" very enthusiastically.

either one of these methods when done infront of a group of people should be humiliating enough to either make the kid stop smarting off, or it will atleast make them want to take you on, then its just up to you to prove that $$$ cant buy skills.

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I truly believe that paintball is a defective game because of stuff like this. I don't take it very seriously as a "sport," but I like to play though. "Pro" in paintball doesn't mean much, I've learned - where a golf pro, or football pro - this means something.

It should not be possible for an amateur team to be able to beat a pro team in a real sport. Although the 49ers may suck right now, there isn't a remote possibility that a high school team could beat them.

High school teams to the 49ers is a stretch, but college teams might have a chance. I think are Badgers could be very competitive over the Packers alot of times.